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Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

rv Kaplan
 

Thanks

Makes me think that my great aunt Ray/Rachel may have had Chasha as a middle name in Hebrew and been called that as a child. No one around now to ask.

Harvey Kaplan

On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 00:40, Jules Feldman <jfeldman@...> wrote:
There is a Hebrew name Chasha which exists among the ultra-Orthodox in
Jerusalem

Chashele is a diminutive form of the name.

Jules Feldman
Kibbutz Yizreel


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

Marcel Apsel
 

I don’t agree that Chasele is a diminutive of Chana; it should be Chanele or we should have somebody who has problems to pronounce an n; another very doubtful explanation might be that there were two girls named Channa and to differentiate both of them, one might be called Chanele and the other one Chasele.  But basically Chasele (little Chasya) is not a diminutive for Chana, but well for Chasya, a first name mainly used in very religious circles.   My neighbor’s daughter is called Chassie, another diminutive of Chasya.

 

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

Marcel Apsel
 

Don’t forget that Jewish children from the 19th century onwards had gentile names for civilian authorities and Jewish names for internal Jewish communal use and for boys especially a necessary name needed to be called for a Thora blessing.

Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe who did not have specific gentile names start to use them when immigrating to the US.  Examples who are not always the same:  Mordechai can become Max, Gittel can become Gussie, Rivka can become Rebecca, Rose,  Schmiel became Sam and the classical Sean Ferguson was originating from Russia with a family name something like Forgatson (don’t catch me if this name is a little bit different), but the ‘Shoyn fergessen’ – (I forgot) was a classical Jewish joke in the 1930s.

On the other hand it often happens that people had two different first names and we see this in the files of JRI-Poland where once a mother is called Malka, a second time Channa and another time Channa Malka.   And all 3 versions of those first names were used.  So I won’t wonder if that person would use the name Annie for Channa and Regina for Malka for different purposes in the US.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

Marcel Apsel
 

A diminutive of Channa should be Cahnele.

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium


GenTeam Adds 500,000 New Records Online #announcements #austria-czech #germany #records #slovakia

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

GenTeam has placed 500,000 new records online. There are approximately 21.2 million records online in total.  Go to:  https://www.genteam.eu/   You need to register in order to access the records,  but access to all data is free.

 

If you are unsure about the exact spelling of the name of a person or a location, you can also enter partial names in all of GenTeam’s databases. Enter only the part you are sure about. The autocomplete function is an easy solution to solving the problem of variations in orthography!

 

Summary of the information available on GenTeam:

 

Complete gazetteer of Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia and South Tyrol with parish affiliations, archival districts and links to the archives   Data from Vienna, Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Burgenland, Salzburg, Tyrol, Styria, Carinthia, Vorarlberg, Bohemia, Moravia, Silesia, Slovakia, Slovenia and Germany.

 

Those that are of particular interest to those researching Jewish roots are:

 

Verlustliste – Casualty list WW1, where also the Jewish soldiers are included (but not named as Jewish –not certain about how many Jews are included)

 

Vienna – civil marriages – this is a source more for Jewish than for non-Jewish

 

Vienna – baptisms – about 150 entries of baptized Jews.

 

 

1.                 Military: Austro-Hungarian casualty lists 1914-1919  Already 2.2 million records

 

The casualty lists enumerate the wounded and killed soldiers as well as the prisoners of war of all Crown Lands of the Habsburg monarchy. In their entirety, these lists will hold approximately 3 to 3.5 million names. They include officers and one-year volunteers, but also subordinated military personnel of all denominations, including Jewish, Muslim and Protestant soldiers.

 

Besides many lists that have already been entered fully, among them the casualties of Przemysl 1915 as well as supplemental lists, a great number of partial lists are also online. In addition, work is in progress for many more.

 

Several collaborators of this project prefer to remain unnamed. I would therefore like to sincerely thank all those who have contributed to this important database, all those who are already working on further lists, as well as Frank Raschka for managing this project.

If you would like to participate in this project please contact: project manager Frank Raschka at verlustliste@... or kontakt@.... They will then send you a sample entry table and assign you a list number.

        2Vienna: Civil marriages and civil registry offices 1870-1939

Records that have been added: Civil marriages of the years 1934-1938 (volumes 55-59), civil marriages from the special civil registry office for August to December 1938, an index to the files of the non-Arian civil registry office from August to December 1938, as well as records from the civil registry office Leopoldstadt for the year 1939.

  1. Vienna – Roman Catholic baptisms 1595- 1920

Records have been added for the parishes of 06 Gumpendorf, 08 Alservorstadt Pfarre, 08 Gebäranstalt     (Alservorstadt Krankenhaus), 09 Votivkirche, 12 Meidling, 13 Maria Hietzing, 15 Reindorf, 18 Währing and  20 Sankt Brigitta.                                                                                                                                                                       The numbers indicate the respective district of Vienna.

  1. Vienna – Roman Catholic marriages 1542- 1938  Already more than 1 million records online!

Records have been added for the parishes of 01 Sankt Stephan and 16 Altottakring. Already more than 2,1     

  1. Vienna: Roman Catholic burials 1600-1938

Records have been added for the parishes of 02 St. Johann Nepomuk and 09 Votivkirche.

  1. Seigniorial indices

 

Records have been added for the estates of Asparn, Walterskirchen, Staatz and Pernegg, all of them in Lower Austria.

 

  1. Indices of Roman Catholic church registers for Burgenland, Lower Austria, Upper Austria, Salzburg,   

 Styria, Tyrol, Moravia and Germany  1538-1938

 

Burgenland

Dörfl, Rattersdorf, Steinberg, Unterrabnitz

 Lower Austria

Ardagger Markt, Ardagger Stift, Eibesthal, Furth an der Triesting, Kollmitzberg, Neudorf bei Staatz, Ringelsdorf, Sallingberg, Sankt Valentin-Landschach, Sindelburg, Stockerau, Trattenbach, Würmla, Zistersdorf, Zwettl Stift

 Upper Austria

Gallneukirchen

 Salzburg

Werfenweng

 Styria

Graz-Don Bosco, Graz-Graben, Graz-Münzgraben, Graz-St. Vinzenz, Übelbach

 Tyrol

Navis, Sankt Jodok am Brenner, Tux

 Moravia

Kutscherau/Kucerov, Stallek/Stalky

 Germany

Gemen

 Jan Meisels Allen                                                                                                                                                                           Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

David Barrett
 

Whilst the question implies that Chashele is a Lithuanian  derivative there is a Dutch name I believe Hashele  which means 'little egg'

Could there be any connection?

Regards

David Barrett


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

sharon yampell
 

My great great grandfather’s sister in law was named Chashe; looks like a diminutive of that…

 

Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, NJ  USA

GenealogicalGenie@...

 

From: Sally Bruckheimer via groups.jewishgen.org
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 8:42 PM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] given name Chashele #latvia #names

 

My first thought was that Chashele was Haskiel, a man's name.  But you want it to be a woman's name. Women often did not have a Hebrew name, but only Yiddish and / or secular names. One of my 2g grandmothers had 20 children in a tiny town, and her name is different on each birth record; My ggrandmother, her daughter was mostly Rachel in records in the US - this was also one of her mother's names; on her marriage record in NYC, she was Regina. She had a sister born Regina, and this was another of their mother's names. So go figure.

Are you sure Chashele isn't Rachele? Where did you find Chashele?

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

"Can anyone tell me about the given name Chashele"

 


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

Jay Paul
 

Harvey, 
You asked about the given name Chashele for someone born in 19th century Lithuania. According to Alexander Beider’s A Dictionary of Ashkenazic Given Names, Khasele is a Yiddish variant of the name Khane (or Chane), apparently a diminutive form of the derivation Khase. Perhaps that is the origin of your relative's name. 
Sincerely,
Jay

Jay Paul
San Francisco, CA 94117
 
Researching: SUMBERG (Pilvishok/Pilviskiai, Lithuania), LANGERT (Pilviskiai & elsewhere in Suwalki gubernia); KAHN (Ranstadt, Germany), GOTTLIEB (Grebenau, Germany), PAVLOVSKIY / PAVLOVSKY (Mala Antonivka, Bila Tserkiv, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia, Ukraine), LEVITSKIY / LEVITZSKY (Yasnohorodka, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia), KOTLER (Vistytis, Suwalki gubernia, Lithuania; Traby, Belarus), LEIBSON (Lithuania), WOLF, SCHWARZ and STERN (presumed from Austro-Hungary).

--
Jay Paul, PhD
San Francisco CA 94117
Researching: SUMBERG (Pilvishok/Pilviskiai, Lithuania), LANGERT (Pilviskiai & elsewhere in Suwalki gubernia); KAHN (Ranstadt, Germany), GOTTLIEB (Grebenau, Germany), PAVLOVSKIY / PAVLOVSKY (Mala Antonivka, Bila Tserkiv, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia, Ukraine), LEVITSKIY / LEVITZSKY (Yasnohorodka, Vasyl’kiv, Kyiv gubernia), KOTLER (Vistytis, Suwalki gubernia), WOLF (Austro-Hungary).


Gesher Galicia Presents "Shtetl Life: An American's Journey from Ukraine to the Rabbinate and now Germany" #announcements #holocaust #rabbinic #galicia #germany

Steven Turner
 

Dear Friends,

Gesher Galicia is proud to offer as part of our webinar series an
interview with Rabbi Jeremy Borovitz conducted by Steven Turner and
moderated by John Diener.

Rabbi Borovitz is a young orthodox Rabbi now living in Berlin who grew
up in New York City. Rabbi Borovitz developed a romantic attachment to
the shtetl and decided after college to join the Peace Corps and live
in a shtetl in Ukraine. He discusses how this led him to develop his
inner Yiddishkeit in a way that ultimately led him down the path of
becoming a Rabbi. During this time, he was very much involved in
preserving Jewish heritage in his ancestral shtetl of Rohatyn.

After his Peace Corps service Jeremy joined the Jewish Corps and he
was stationed in Kyiv which eventually led him to be part of the
protests on the streets during the Maidan revolution.

From there, Jeremy studied in yeshivot in Israel and later at a
seminary in Brooklyn, NY from which he was recently ordained. He now
lives with his wife Rebecca who is also an orthodox Rabbi in Berlin as
part of Hillel's Base Berlin. Jeremy and Rebecca were in the synagogue
in Halle during a terrorist attack on Yom Kippur, 2019. Fortunately
the terrorist was unable to break down the doors and all the
worshipers were saved, but sadly 2 innocent people outside the
synagogue were murdered.

We trust that you will find Jeremy's story to be fascinating and well
worth your time. This presentation is recorded and on our Members
Portal for members to view at their convenience

Preview a trailer of the interview with Rabbi Borovitz talking about
what Gesher Galicia means to him here:
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Please make sure you are logged into Gesher Galicia before clicking
the link below to view the complete interview.
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Please email us at ssturner@... with any questions or comments.

Sincerely,
Dr. Steven S. Turner
President, Gesher Galicia


Re: Beth David Cemetery. Elmont, Queens NY #photographs #usa

rebasolomon
 

You are doing so many good deeds by searching for people at Beth David. I can barely find my own grandparents, even though I’ve been there many times. The groundskeepers have worked very hard cleaning it up, so it’s not as tangled as before. I wish you good luck. 

Reba Harris Solomon


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

Sally Bruckheimer
 

My first thought was that Chashele was Haskiel, a man's name.  But you want it to be a woman's name. Women often did not have a Hebrew name, but only Yiddish and / or secular names. One of my 2g grandmothers had 20 children in a tiny town, and her name is different on each birth record; My ggrandmother, her daughter was mostly Rachel in records in the US - this was also one of her mother's names; on her marriage record in NYC, she was Regina. She had a sister born Regina, and this was another of their mother's names. So go figure.

Are you sure Chashele isn't Rachele? Where did you find Chashele?

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

"Can anyone tell me about the given name Chashele"


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

rv Kaplan
 

Thanks - but don't think so.  I'm wondering if it is a diminutive of Channa - which still wouldn't fit in with the family names - who knows?

Harvey Kaplan

On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 at 22:59, lydgateaction via groups.jewishgen.org <lydgateaction=btinternet.com@...> wrote:
Is it not perhaps Chavala -- .חבלה Although the Hebrew meaning of the name Chavala is "life", in Yiddish it sometimes also meant "a little bird" I think. 
 
I'm no expert but I can see possible confusion in the lettering and transliteration /sin/ vs /shin/ and /bet vs /vet/
 
In Fiddler on the roof, Tevya sings a song ``Little bird, little Chavala'' (about his daughter Chavala). 
 
"Little Bird, Little Chavala
I don't understand what's happening today
everything is all a blur
Gentle and kind and affectionate
The sweet little bird you were
Chavala, Chavala
Little Bird, Little Chavala....

Aubrey Blumsohn
Sheffield, UK


Latvia Database Broken Links - Workaround video now online #JewishGenUpdates #courland #latvia

Marion Werle
 

Many of us have come to depend on the JewishGen Latvia database as a source for tranlated vital and 1897 census records. As you probably know,the Latvian State Historical Archives' Raduraksti website has moved, breaking the database links to the actual documents. There is no substitute for looking at the original record (even if you need to have it translated), so the broken links are a problem. We have a workaround that was presented at the IAJGS 2020 virtual conference's Latvia Resarch Division meeting, and I'm happy to announce that I've recorded it and it is now on the JewishGen Youtube channel. The presentation, "Finding Unindexed Latvian BMD and Census Records on FamilySearch," may be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwpu2OHFmS8&t=4s . The JewishGen introduction to the database will be updated shortly to point to the video. Hopefully this will be helpful to genealogists in locating digital copies of Latvian vital records, until the Latvia Research Division is able to correct the broken links.
 
Please forward any questions to LatviaRD@....
--
Marion Werle, Co-Director Latvia Research Division
<canadagenes@...>


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

Jules Feldman
 

There is a Hebrew name Chasha which exists among the ultra-Orthodox in
Jerusalem

Chashele is a diminutive form of the name.

Jules Feldman
Kibbutz Yizreel


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

Marcel Apsel
 

Harvey,

 

It might be a diminutive of Chasya

 

Marcel Apsel

Antwerpen, Belgium

 

If you don’t remember me, I think we had together Friday night dinner in 2018 at the Warsaw Seminar together with Bill Gladstone.

 

Marcel


Re: 1940 US Census problem #records #usa

m_tobiasiewicz@...
 

Hi Richard,
What name are you looking for? I am pretty good at finding elusive relatives. What street did they  live on in 1930?
--
Maryellen Tobiasiewicz
family from: Bielsko-Biala powiat Poland
Gorlice powiat Poland
Lviv Oblast Ukraine


Re: given name Chashele #latvia #names

lydgateaction@...
 

Is it not perhaps Chavala -- .חבלה Although the Hebrew meaning of the name Chavala is "life", in Yiddish it sometimes also meant "a little bird" I think. 
 
I'm no expert but I can see possible confusion in the lettering and transliteration /sin/ vs /shin/ and /bet vs /vet/
 
In Fiddler on the roof, Tevya sings a song ``Little bird, little Chavala'' (about his daughter Chavala). 
 
"Little Bird, Little Chavala
I don't understand what's happening today
everything is all a blur
Gentle and kind and affectionate
The sweet little bird you were
Chavala, Chavala
Little Bird, Little Chavala....

Aubrey Blumsohn
Sheffield, UK


Re: Geni Family Trees #general

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Jeffrey, 

The evidence of progressive correctness comes from the various large areas I have worked, for example, the Frankfurt and Prague and Vienna Jewish communities.  I know it is hard for people to believe or understand, but there are many people (not just me) who are extremely active on Geni, doing more than you could ever think is possible.  Some of them become curators (there are several hundred volunteer curators now) and we have frequent discussions (some public, some private) on how to resolve problem areas, for example, when recurring mistakes creep in.  One of the tools we have as curators is to lock down profiles so that new relationships cannot be added without curator approval.  The tree is always a work-in-progress, but it does improve over time.  Look, for example, at the tree of the Maharal of Prague.  There are still some issues, but we have tried to eliminate much of the apocryphal ancestry that you will find on most other sites, based on recent scholarship.  The more evidence is added to the profiles, the easier it is to avoid and resolve errors.  Slowly, but surely, the tree comes together in ways that just are not possible when people work by themselves.  In the Frankfurt tree, I collaborate with a number of others who scour the tree looking for conflicts and discrepancies.  The Geni program also has features that can alert you to potential errors.  In the Prague Jewish tree, I have fewer collaborators, but we are gradually piecing together the families, using old and new resources, so that when people find it, they do not have to reinvent the wheel and can take advantage of the work that has already been done., and then make improvements.  We all make mistakes, of course; that is unavoidable.  And anyone who has experience working with old records knows that there are often errors and ambiguities.  As I have written previously in one of my old blogs, there is no such thing as certainty in genealogy.  We are all just doing our best to figure things out until the next piece of evidence comes along that either confirms our assumptions or requires us to reevaluate them.

I agree that it is one of the things that is very difficult for users operating in a smaller field to understand, that a process that allows some errors to creep into their tree is also a process that ends up catching and correcting even more errors.  I try to explain that it is like a machine that goes three steps forward and one step back, three steps forward and one step back . . . .  Over time, it averages out to real progress.  

Randy Schoenberg


Re: Searching for Spector Families #ukraine #usa

David Mason
 

I was able to reconnect two branches of the family I’m working on with 1920 census data, where the pioneering brothers were still living in the same household in Philadelphia.  One brother immigrated in 1903; the other followed ten years later.  I have not able to find the earlier arrival in the 1910 census.

 

Another member of this forum was able to find brother #2’s immigration record for me.  Census records only show the country of birth, however the immigration record also showed the town they came from, as a mangled but still recognizable transliteration.

 

David Mason

Culver City, California

 


Excellent lecture series from The Holocaust Exhibition and Learning Centre #holocaust

Ellen Caplan
 

The Holocaust Exhibition and Learning Centre at The University of Huddersfield, UK is a hidden gem. I don’t remember where I heard of them - perhaps in this very discussion list. They have an excellent series of free, online lectures that I have been attending. The subjects are interesting, and the speakers have been first-rate. I couldn’t help but notice that attendance is low - in each of the Zoom lectures that I listened to, there were not more than 25 attendees, which is really a shame. 

Recent topics included Creating the National Institute of Holocaust Documentation at the USHMM (United Stated Holocaust Memorial Museum); and Antisemitism and the Russian Revolution. Lectures yet to come include Jewish Refugees Find a Haven in the Dominican Republic; Sources of the Holocaust and from Concentration Camps: Documents and Personal Items from the Arolsen Archives; Shores of Light, Salento 1945,1947: Film Streaming and Director Talk.
 
I highly recommend these lectures.

Ellen Caplan
Ottawa, Canada
Researching: EISENBERG, NAGLER, GINIGER, KLINGER: Mielnica, Ustye Biscupie, & Zalescie, Galicia; BREGER, LIEBMAN: Gomel & area, Belarus; PARADISGARTEN,  SOLOMON: Tukums & Mitau, Latvia