#Ciechanow #Poland Chanukah Gifts on the JewishGenMall #Poland #ciechanow

Sandra and Donald Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>

Chanukah is very early this year beginning at sundown on November 29th.
Please don't miss the opportunity to support JewishGen while shopping in
comfort of your home. Shopping on the JewishGenMall is fast and easy,
and the prices are right.

Visit the mall at, click on 'Search' at the
bottom of the page and then for starters try typing in 'Gifts,' then click
on 'Go.'Or, select 'Chanukah' and again 'Go.'

If you have a particular book or video in mind, you can type in the title.
Or, if you prefer, select a topic in which you are interested such as
Children, Genealogy, Lithuania, Holocaust, History, and so on.

An appropriate gift suggestion for someone about to begin working on his
genealogy is the new Version 2.0 DoroTree Jewish Genealogy Software
for Windows users. Just type in DOT101 on the Search line and you will
see all the features available. JewishGen is offering this at a special
price right now."

Happy Chanukah!

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Managers, JewishGenMall

#Ciechanow #Poland JewishGen & Ellis Island Foundation provide enhanced search of EIDB #ciechanow #Poland

Susan E. King <susan.king@...>


Susan E. King (281) 535-2200


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These One-Step search tools developed by Dr. Stephen Morse with
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who came through the Port of New York and Ellis Island between
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JewishGen and the Foundation will work together with the developers
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#Ciechanow #Poland Jewish agricultural collectives in Russia #ciechanow #Poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>


Can someone tell me about Jewish agricultural collectives in Russia or
point me to a reference?

Does anyone know about one in Karniewo, near Ciechanow/Pultusk north of Warsaw?
I've heard it an elderly relative, born near there, refer to it as an a
Jewish agricultural kibbutz.
The little I know is that there were very few Jews (< 50) and that a
relative owned a
flour mill and bought/processed grain >from local farmers.

I'm interested in both specific information about Karniewo as well as
general information
about Jewish agricultural collectives.


Marty Meyers

#Ciechanow #Poland New JewishGenMall Honors Toronto Conference #ciechanow #Poland

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>

In honor of the 22nd IAJGS Genealogical Seminar opening in Toronto
on August 4th , JewishGen is pleased to inaugurate a brand new
shopping mall at with a Mallwide 10%
discount starting now and lasting until midnight August 15th Central
Daylight time. To qualify for the discount your order must be received no
later than the cutoff time and date specified. The discount will apply to
**all** orders placed either at the conference or >from your home.

In addition to the tremendous display of books, videos and software
the JewishGenMall now provides :

1. an advanced search system
2. simpler checkout
3. ability to FAX orders

Visit the JewishGen vendor table in Toronto where we will have a live
hookup to the JewishGenMall. Sandy and Don Hirschhorn, responsible
for the vast array of offerings and other JewishGen staff will be there to
assist you. Special thanks also to John Berman, Richard Lehman, Rick
Spears, Ed Borodkin and Becky Rogers for their efforts to make the new mall
available for conference time.

Since it has a new look, we urge you to read the FAQ to become acquainted
with the environment and the upgraded **passworded** checkout
procedure. Use the Search feature to find a book or an area of special
interest to your research. See the FAQ for suggestions on how best to use
or browse the entire inventory. Check it often as new products and titles
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being added. Be sure to visit the "Of Particular Interest" category listed
on the Mall home page.

We look forward to hearing >from you. Questions, recommendations
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The JewishGenMall is an integral funding source contributing to the
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JewishGen Special Projects

#Ciechanow #Poland ...some technical problems #ciechanow #Poland

Stan Zeidenberg

We're sorry but there were some technical problems that may have
caused messages sent to us in the last 24 hours to be forever lost
in cyberspace. If you don't see your message posted in the next
day or so, please re-submit.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

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JewishGen Special Projects

#Ciechanow #Poland Genealogy Project at 22nd IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy #ciechanow #Poland

Stan Zeidenberg


Genealogy is about context, as well as facts. The 22nd IAJGS
Conference is pleased to present a range of artistic displays,
and films to delight the soul, as well as your mind. Full details of
Programmes can be found on the Conference Programme web
page at

1. During the Conference you will find a range of galleries with arts
exhibits. In one gallery you will find a limited selection >from the
original major photographic exhibition =93And I Still See Their Faces:
of Polish Jews=94. - an absorbing look at the vibrant Jewish family
community life and diverse culture that existed in Poland in the
before 1939. The accompanying volume will be on sale.

2. =93Jewish Heritage in Poland=94 is selection of sixteen photographs,
colour and black and white, of Jewish heritage sites in Poland taken
by Alex
Oldfield while on a two-week Elderhostel tour in August 2001. The
focus is
on Judaica in Warsaw, Tykocin, Bialystok, Lodz, and Kazimierz
(Cracow), as
well as Treblinka, Majdanek and Auschwitz. Most of these
photographs will be
featured in the slide show presentation: Jewish Heritage in Poland
Monday=92s schedule).

3. =93Tracing the Jewish Past Through Postal History=94 is a
exhibition that contains samples >from the collection of Nigel
Grizzard and
travels through places as diverse as Kirgistan, England, the Isle of
Palestine, Egypt, Slovakia, Hungary and Argentina.

Three original art exhibitions will be on display at the Conference
and the
artists will be available for an informal talk and questions.

a. Mayer Kirshenblatt=92s =93Childhood Memories >from Opatow,
Poland=94 is his
reflection of stories he told his three daughters about growing up in
before the Holocaust.

b. >from Montreal, artist Susan Shulman=92s =93In Our Memories
Forever=94, the
hypothetical has become real. Through the existence of a family
archive of
letters written by her young grandparents between 1898-1900, the
painter has
been afforded a glimpse into the lives of her ancestors and their
from Russia and eventual immigration to Canada.
c. Family Fabrics: An Exhibit by the Pomegranate Guild of Judaic
of Toronto, is an exhibit of original textile pieces incorporating
genealogical research and family history. Some pieces have been
using heirloom fabrics.

d. The Exhibition of Family Trees by students in Toronto Hebrew
Day Schools
Grades 4 and 5 shows the work of the grade 4 students of the
Toronto Heschel
School, a Jewish Day School where the arts play a major role, and
the work
of grade 5 students at the Bialik Hebrew Day School of Toronto.

e. In conjunction with the Toronto Jewish Film Festival, the
largest Jewish film festival in North America, and one of the largest
film festivals in the world, the Conference will be presenting the
Genealogical Film Festival. Films of interest to Jewish genealogists
will be
featured Tuesday and Wednesday nights. Two of the films are
expected to be
presented by respective film makers, one by a person portrayed in
the film,
others by persons knowledgeable in the topics.

Tuesday Cinema 1: =93The Jews of Poland=94, & =93The Secret=94
Tuesday Cinema 2: =93Bene Israel: A Family Portrait=94 & =93Uncle
Wednesday Cinema 1:=93Wierzbnik: Impressions of a Town that
Was=94 &
Wednesday Cinema 2: =93I am home=94 & "Minyan on the Mira=94

Feed the mind, body and soul at the Conference=92s Gala Closing
Banquet. In
addition to our wonderful guest speaker, Dr. Irving Abella, and a
meal, the evening will provide live entertainment. Prior to and
during the
Banquet, entertainment will be provided by Beyond the Pale (see ), who will perform
music, the traditional folk music of eastern-European Jews.

At Toronto 2002, you=92ll have it all: a great genealogical experience,
friends, food and Jewish Genealogies own version of Arts &
Entertainment. I
f you haven=92t registered yet, times almost gone. Register now at See you in Toronto!

#Ciechanow #Poland Toronto Conference -JewishGen Luncheon - JewishGen Databases Guid ed Tour #ciechanow #Poland

Susan E. King <susan.king@...>

An in-depth guided tour of the JewishGen databases will be conducted by
Warren Blatt and Michael Tobias at the JewishGen luncheon scheduled for
Tuesday, August 6th at 12:30 at the Toronto Conference.

Learn all about the JewishGen Family Finder, ShtetlSeeker, Discussion
Group archives, the Family Tree of the Jewish People and more.

Not only will your guides take you through each of these incredibly
valuable databases, you will learn how to make the best possible use of
them to benefit your own research and, in the case of the JewishGen
Family Finder how to add your own research interests to the existing
275,000 surname/town combinations.

Sign up now as the limited space is going fast! Go to the Tour and
Meals Order Form at
enter the requested information and when completed scroll to the
very bottom to submit the form.

#Ciechanow #Poland Genealogy Project at 22nd IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy #ciechanow #Poland

Stan Zeidenberg

* Billy Crystal & Simon Wiesenthal Center to Announce Major New
* Genealogy Project at 22nd IAJGS International Conference on
Jewish Genealogy

* The 22nd IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy is
pleased to announce that noted actor, comedian and humanitarian
Mr. Billy Crystal and the Simon Wiesenthal Center/ Museum of
Tolerance have chosen to announce a major new genealogical
project at the Opening of the Conference on the evening of August
4. Mr. Rafi Guber, the creator and historian/genealogist for the
project and speaker at the Conference, will be presenting a
personal message to the Conference >from Mr. Crystal after which
the attendees will watch a short video introducing a major new
Genealogical project at the Simon Wiesenthal Center in which Mr.
Crystal is a major participant.

* Gert Rogers, Chair of the Conference noted that "We are very
pleased that Mr. Crystal has chosen to greet our Conference and
announce this major new project. Mr. Crystal has been involved for
some time in Jewish genealogy. He has been working with Rafael
Guber on his family over the last five years and Mr. Crystal is well
known to be committed to the cause of Jewish identity. We are
pleased that he has recognized the importance of our Conference
as a place to make this important announcement.

* The Jewish Genealogical Society of Canada (Toronto) is hosting
the 22nd IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy at the Toronto
Sheraton Centre, August 4-9, 2002. The Conference is an
opportunity to advance Jewish Genealogy at home and
internationally. Up to 1,000 Jewish genealogists >from around the
* world are expected to come to Toronto for a series of lectures,
meetings and special events, making it the largest international
Jewish gathering in Canada this year. Detailed information about
the Conference can be found at the Conference website at

#Ciechanow #Poland IAJGS Conference #ciechanow #Poland

Stan Zeidenberg

For any in the group who are planning to be in Toronto for the
Conference, please let me know so that we can make some
arrangements to meet.

For complete Conference information, please see:

Stan Zeidenberg
Ciechanow Research Group

#Ciechanow #Poland The 22nd IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Geneal #ciechanow #Poland

Stan Zeidenberg

Gala Banquet Announcements

The 22nd IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy is
pleased to
announce an outstanding programme for its closing Gala Banquet
on Thursday
evening, August 8, in the Grand Ballroom of the Sheraton Centre

Entertainment will be provided by performers Beyond the Pale (see, specializing in
music, the traditional folk music of eastern-European Jews. The
kosher Banquet will provide a venue for attendees to the
Conference to
celebrate the culmination of a great Conference and the
achievements of the
world of Jewish genealogy. During the evening the International
of Jewish Genealogical Societies will present its Annual
Achievement Awards:
the Lifetime Achievement Award and awards for Outstanding
Outstanding Project and Outstanding Contribution to Jewish

The highlight of the evening will be the featured guest speaker.
The 22nd
IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy is pleased to
feature an
address by author, academic, historian, commentator and
community leader =96
Dr. Irving Abella - an outstanding Canadian and an international
Personality. Dr. Abella not only teaches history but he makes
history. Dr.
Abella will be speaking on =93The Tides of Jewish Immigration =96 Our
Coat of
Many Colours=94. His comments will touch on the untold history of
the waves
of Jewish immigration to Canada, how it replicates the experience
in other
=93new world=94 countries and how that experience affected our
ancestors and
have made us what we are today.

Participants will definitely not want to miss the excitement of the
Banquet and outside guests are also welcome. Don=92t miss the fun,
stimulating conversation and the entertainment. If you haven=92t yet
registered for the Conference go to the Conference registration
page at and make sure to
choose the
Banquet option. If you are already registered for the Conference or
have a
friend who would like to attend the Banquet, simply e-mail the
info line at info@... and indicate your food
preference and
the number of tickets. Banquet tickets are CDN $75 ($US $54) per
person and
must be purchased in advance of the Conference. Don=92t delay!
Register now
for the Gala Closing Banquet and join the party.

------- End of forwarded message -------

#Ciechanow #Poland IAJGS International Conference OnJewish Genealogy #ciechanow #Poland

Stan Zeidenberg

<<Important Reminders and Deadlines>>

1. The gala banquet of Thursday night will feature an incredible
speaker,live entertainment and a couple of special surprises. The
entire banquet will be strictly kosher and all reservations must be
made well in advance of the conference itself.

2. At breakfast and lunch there will be a unique opportunity to meet
and exchange views and insights with some of the heroes of Jewish
genealogy. Listen and learn as you enjoy a continental breakfast or
catered lunch.
Visit the Conference web site program page at and use the links for each
day of Conference to review the details. (Strictly Kosher meals
available on request}

3. You will not want to miss the advice and guidance available at
the conference JRI-Poland help desk, or the detailed presentation
of all the services and information available at the JewishGen web

4. Those of you with roots in Eastern Canada will be able access
the indices to the Jewish vital records of Quebec compiled by the
Jewish Genealogical Society of Montreal. Indexing the 1841-1942
Jewish vital records of Quebec in the Drouin microfilm collection
was a four-year project of the Jewish Genealogical Society of
Montreal, completed in early 2002.

Jerry Tepperman
Marketing and Public Relations Chair

#Ciechanow #Poland Attending conference #Poland #ciechanow

Lawrence Blum <lawblum@...>

We will be attending the conference.
Larry and Flory Blum

#Ciechanow #Poland Meeting of our group during IAJGS Conference #ciechanow #Poland

Stan Zeidenberg

Dear group,

I hope that many of you will be coming to the 22nd IAJGS Annual
International Conference On Jewish Genealogy, to be held in
Toronto this summer, August 4 - 9. I am planning to hold a
meeting of our group and ask that those of you who will be attending
to please contact me as soon as possible.

For conference information please see:

Stan Zeidenberg
Ciechanow Research Group Coordinator
Toronto, Canada

#Ciechanow #Poland Re: is there a town Polnym Mlynie ?? #ciechanow #Poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>

Amazingly, one of JGens experts knew this....and it isn't even a town but
a subdivision of a shtetl!

Locality Polny Mlyn (translated >from Polish as: Field Mill) was the part
(probably a colony or a homstead) of village Karwacz (located @ 53o01'
20o58) in the Przasznysz district.


Marty Meyers
Montclair, NJ

#Ciechanow #Poland Re: is there a town Polnym Mlynie ?? #ciechanow #Poland

Allan E. Mallenbaum <AEM@...>

I've had no luck either in searching for your town, BUT...
Let's assume (as sometimes happens) that the first word is a
variant meaning Poland or Polish, while the second is the actual name
(as in British Columbia, or American Samoa.) Factoring in Yiddish
dialects of Polish mispronunciations, it seems reasonable.
There is a Mielno (Muhlen) only 47 miles NNW of Ciechanow
located at 53 31, 20 12. It's close enough to your area to be the
likely first place to look. There are about 20+ towns with the same
name in Poland, so start with the closest.
Any help I can offer -- please ask.
-- Allan

#Ciechanow #Poland is there a town Polnym Mlynie ?? #ciechanow #Poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>


An 1827 Przasnsyz death certificate for Iciek Nosen Zylberman states that
his daughter
Haia Moshowa was living in what looks like "Polnym Mlynie" (could possibly
be Potnym).

Can anyone identify this for me? I have not been able to find anything
yet. Others in the family
came >from Chorzele, Pultusk and Ciechanow.


Marty Meyers]

#Ciechanow #Poland Laznik Family #ciechanow #Poland

David Laznik <dalaznik@...>

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Laznik and Frid Relation</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>My name is David Laznik or Leznik (translation mistakes).<BR>My name in the Torah is "ELIAHU DAVID ben (son of) Avigdor&nbsp; " or "ELIO DUVED" in Yiidish.<BR>I was borne in Lima the capital of Peru in South America.<BR>The name of my father R.I.P. was WIGDOR Laznik or Leznik and he was borne in Poland in Ciechanov, based on his birth certificate, which is enclosed (attachment).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My grandfather was <FONT color=#ff0000>Laznik David&nbsp;</FONT> born in1869 in Ciechanov. (I'm looking for his parents or brothers or sisters)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The main reason of this letter is trying to find any connection or relationship between any of us which have the same last name all over the world and trying to keep our family tree as much as possible.<BR>All this started >from my curiosity while I was surfing the net and >from the fact that not so far ago I received at last my father's birth certificate.<BR>We were a family that included two brothers and a sister, today my brother Abraham Laznik has two sons 7 and 5 years old and me, and I have a son and a daughter 28 and 25 years old.<BR>This is my first letter and I don't want it to be too long but if this letter is interesting to anyone, please contact me and I will send you pictures of my grandparents, parents, cousins and sons.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the Ciechanov Marriages (Source: LDS Marriage Records 1826-1865) I have found:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#ff0000>Laznik Mylka</FONT> marrige 23 years old in 1863 in Ciechanov and the parents:&nbsp; Froim and <FONT color=#ff0000>Frymet Fryd</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000>Laznik Madla <FONT color=#000000>marrige 18 years old in 1852 in Ciechanov&nbsp;and the parents:</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial>&nbsp; Froim and <FONT color=#ff0000>Frymet </FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Laznik Judel&nbsp; <FONT color=#000000>marrige 17 years old in 1856 in Ciechanov and the parents:<FONT face=Arial>&nbsp; Fraim (Abramivich) and <FONT color=#ff0000>Frymet</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also found the registration of <FONT color=#ff0000>Zbick Wigdor </FONT><FONT color=#000000>marriege 18 years old in 19851 in Ciechanov and the parents: Abram and Ester, who is my g_grandfhather >from my grandmother side.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My questions:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1.- >from the Fryd side could we be relation? have you some imformation that can help ??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2.- Mylka, Madla and Judel are male or female names? do you know?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3.- Also Iwant to understand why in Judel fathers name says Fraim not Froim (are those diferent persons or it is a mistake?) and it says Abramovich too, if he is the father of Judel Laznik how can be Fraim Abramovich?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If some body can help me ??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Please answer to:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A href="mailto:dalaznik@...">dalaznik@...</A> is my mail for personal matters</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV>David Laznik </DIV>POBox 742-Karmiel - 21616
<DIV></DIV>Fax:972-4-9581162 E-mail Privado: dalaznik@...
<DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN Photos es la manera más sencilla de compartir e imprimir sus fotos: <a href=''>Haga clic aquí</a><br></html>

#Ciechanow #Poland Steczki #ciechanow #Poland

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gogole-Steczki in Paluki parishes. Could someone tell me what Steczki
and if it is a village, hamlet, community or area?

Christopher Witz

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#Ciechanow #Poland Re: ciechanow digest: May 20, 2002 #ciechanow #Poland

Amy L Sheldon <asheldon@...>

Re the below discussion of whether "Scrobocin" might be also spelled

The letter "c" in "Ciechanow" (initial consonant) is pronounced "ts" in
Polish (I think).

In the spelling "Scrobocin", would the second "c", which is in between the
vowels (intervocalic), be pronounced in Polish as "k" or "ts"?


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1. Skrobocin
2. Re: Skrobocin


Subject: Skrobocin
From: Marcos Frid <marcos_frid@...>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:03:46 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear Ciechanowers:

In the marriage certificate of my g-g-grandparents, which I found in the
LDS microfilms of Ciechanow, and dated 1862, it states that my
g-g-grandmother and her parents lived in the village of "Skrobocin". I
have not been able to find any references to this village, except for
one Polish page which came up on a Google search. My interest, of
course, would be to find documents of my g-g-grandmother's side of the
family. My suspicion is that this was a tiny village very close to
Ciechanow and therefore life events would have been recorded in
Ciechanow. Is this a correct assumption? Has anyone heard about this


Marcos Frid


Subject: Re: Skrobocin
From: "Jonathan Goldmacher" <JGoldmacher@...>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 12:21:28 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2


The Shtetl Seeker returned only one town that match the DM Soundex
search for your town: SKORUPKEN, it is located 114.9 miles N of Warsaw
at coordinates 5353 2132

I can't say this is the town you're looking for, but it may be. Only a
little research can tell you for sure.


marcos_frid@... 05/20/02 12:03PM >>>
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Dear Ciechanowers:

In the marriage certificate of my g-g-grandparents, which I found in
LDS microfilms of Ciechanow, and dated 1862, it states that my
g-g-grandmother and her parents lived in the village of "Skrobocin". I

have not been able to find any references to this village, except for
one Polish page which came up on a Google search. My interest, of
course, would be to find documents of my g-g-grandmother's side of the

family. My suspicion is that this was a tiny village very close to
Ciechanow and therefore life events would have been recorded in
Ciechanow. Is this a correct assumption? Has anyone heard about this



Marcos Frid

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#Ciechanow #Poland Ellis Island transcription for Ciechanow #ciechanow #Poland

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>

I'd like to know how many ways people have found the town Ciechanow
spelled (or misspelled or incorrectly transcribed) in the Ellis Island

Could anyone who has found a spelling other than Ciechanow contact me
at <meyers01@...>


Marty Meyers

Marty Meyers

BORDOWITZ/BORDO >from Przasnysz/Mlawa/Ciechanow/Makow/Pultusk
ZYLBERMAN/SILVERMAN >from Przasnysz/Chorzele
MEYEROWITZ/MEYERS >from Vilna area? to New York/Worcester, Mass
KIRSHNER/SIDMAN >from Volhynia/Ukraine to Leeds to Mass
LANDSMAN >from Vilna area to Mass
ZELMANOVICH >from Poland (Przasnysz area?)
ROZENSZTEIN >from Poland (Przasnysz area?)