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Re: Testing the #Hashtags Function #Belarus

Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <r-hopper@...>
 

Well, understanding hashtags would require reading the information posted about them. But in a nut shell, they are supposed to give context to posts. Topics that include a hashtag should be grouped together, more easily searched, and presented as a thread. Whether or not they are useful for this group remains to be seen.

So, using this topic as an example I see that they DO work on the website. My assumption s that once a hashtag is created by any user all users can see it. I would be interested to know if this is, in fact, true. To test it, please do the following:


Click on “Hashtags” in the left hand menu

Click on #hashtags in the bright blue box

Above the bright blue box uncheck “Collapse Topics” if you see it is checked.

Below the blue box you will now see all the messages related to this topic.

I was actually hoping that it would group these messages in the emails that I receive but that did not happen, so my suspicion is that this function is only useful for reading messages on the website.

After reading more about groups.io I see that there is no admin function to force quoted replies. So it is either hashtags or copy and paste for those replying to a message. I do not see the copy/paste solution as viable for an active group.
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Rachel Hopper
Ft. Collins. CO



On Aug 1, 2019, at 7:49 AM, Sally Bruckheimer via Groups.Io <sallybruc@...> wrote:

I'm sorry, but do Hashtags have to do with anything. You have a long posting.

Re: Testing the #Hashtags Function #Belarus

Jan Fine
 

Hashtags apply to social media postings and make subjects searchable. This is something I work with a whole lot, but haven't done much with it genealogy-wise.  Will take a look on the jewishgen link and see...

So far I a finding this beta a bit awkward.  


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Re: Trial #Poland

Yefim Kogan
 

If we limit language to only English, that in my opinion is a big mistake.  We loose many people from Latin America, Easter Europe.

I think that better for us, English speakers to translate from Spanish or Russian, etc.

 

Yefim Kogan

JewishGen Director for Bessarabia region (former SIG)

 

 

From: JewishGen@groups.io <JewishGen@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rose Feldman
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:50 AM
To: JewishGen@groups.io
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Trial

 

I understand Yefim, but by writing in a language other than English it might limit those who can offer help. Whenever I suggest someone write to JG I say, write in short sentences and people aren't put off by mistakes.  Even if you use a translator your best translations are when the sentences are short and not complex and long.

 

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Re: Trial #Poland

Lorraine Rosengarten
 

I absolutely agree with you.  

Akivah Stern

sylvia vanderhoeft
 

Can anyone help, we are looking for Akivah Stern born around 1805 in Nowy Sacz, Poland ( at the time part of Galicia) ?

Re: Trial #Poland

Sam Eneman
 

Friends,

I'm getting the daily digest and responding to messages via the Web interface (must be logged into Groups.io to Reply it seems). You can quote the message being replied to by clicking the "Comments" icon in the upper left corner of the message composer:



All the questions we've raised seem to point to the need for a lot of Help files re: the new interface and usability, or at least a set of tips for new users. 

Sam Eneman
ViewMate and JewishGen-erosity Wall of Honor Admins

Re: Trial #Poland

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"I agree with you". 

This posting is the perfect reason that we need context. Obviously he agrees with what I said, since I read it. But I have said several things, and he may not agree with everything I have said.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: Trial #Poland

Dick Plotz
 

Thanks, Sam. This is helpful.

Is there a setting that makes that box checked as the default option? Then we wouldn't have to rely on the attention and cooperation of hundreds of participants to give context. Of course, sometimes we'd get too much context, which is one of the reasons moderators need to be able to edit out any excess. But since we almost always need that context in replies, and there's too much context only some of the time, it makes sense to have the box checked by default.

I'm still far from convinced that it would be a good idea to allow access to the web interface at all. Online forums, which this would be, are usually unmoderated and most of the time (at least when the participants aren't a small group who already know each other) degenerate into flame wars. Online forums constitute a communications channel with distinct parameters* that are different from the parameters of e-mail lists, and it's probably not a good idea to try to shoehorn one communications channel into both forms. We had that option from the start of Lyris, and rejected it with good reason. The result is likely to be something that performs suboptimally in both. Is there a setting that sends replies to posts within a digest by e-mail rather than in the online forum?

Dick

* That's "parameters", not "perimeters".

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 9:01 PM Sam Eneman <sam.eneman@...> wrote:
Friends,

I'm getting the daily digest and responding to messages via the Web interface (must be logged into Groups.io to Reply it seems). You can quote the message being replied to by clicking the "Comments" icon in the upper left corner of the message composer:



All the questions we've raised seem to point to the need for a lot of Help files re: the new interface and usability, or at least a set of tips for new users. 

Sam Eneman
ViewMate and JewishGen-erosity Wall of Honor Admins

Re: Trial #Poland

Alan Shuchat
 

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 06:10 PM, Hank Mishkoff wrote:
I get a daily digest, and when I open a discussion I see all the notes arranged in chronological order, which means that I have to scroll through all the old notes before I see the new ones. Is that by design? Is there some kind of configuration setting I can change?
I agree - especially when many have commented on a topic (like this one, “Trial”) it takes a long time to find the most recent reply. In addition, Hank’s message was embedded in a long list of replies on matters that had strayed from the original topic heading.

Alan Shuchat 

Re: Trial #Poland

Marion Werle
 

Isn't the point of hashtags to add a more specific subject(s)? And you can filter by the hashtag as well.
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Re: Trial #Poland

Dick Plotz
 

Well, once the archiving process is back up and running, JewishGen
posts are fully searchable by the actual content of the post. I guess
a hashtag might in some cases provide an additional bit of text to
search on, but as others have mentioned, hashtags were developed in
order to make searching of otherwise unindexed text (in social media)
possible. It's unlikely they would make much difference in our
context.

Dick


On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 4:18 PM <canadagenes@...> wrote:

Isn't the point of hashtags to add a more specific subject(s)? And you can filter by the hashtag as well.
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Labor battalion 108/24

akolet@...
 


I am Looking for survivors of Hungarian  labor battalion 108/24.

My late father in law Zoltan  Strohli, lost his entire family in Auschwitz, rescue 220 jews at the labor battalion in 1944,

Using Raul Wallenberg visas.

If you know any details please contact:

Abraham Kolet

Akolet@...

Re: Labor battalion 108/24

Dick Plotz
 

Abraham, this is a test group, not the JewishGen Discussion Group. It
has only about 100 subscribers. If you want answers to your question,
write to the JewishGen Discussion Group,
jewishgen@..., which has over 7500 subscribers.

Dick Plotz
Manager of Mailing Lists
JewishGen, Inc.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 9:58 AM <akolet@...> wrote:


I am Looking for survivors of Hungarian labor battalion 108/24.

My late father in law Zoltan Strohli, lost his entire family in Auschwitz, rescue 220 jews at the labor battalion in 1944,

Using Raul Wallenberg visas.

If you know any details please contact:

Abraham Kolet

Akolet@...

Re: Trial #Poland

Sam Eneman
 

When viewing a topic thread in the Web interface, you can sort posts by date so you can see the most recent at the top and don't have to scroll. The link is in the upper right of the thread.



Sam Eneman

Re: Labor battalion 108/24

Avraham Groll
 

test with quoted reply

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 10:03 AM Dick Plotz <Dick@...> wrote:
Abraham, this is a test group, not the JewishGen Discussion Group. It
has only about 100 subscribers. If you want answers to your question,
write to the JewishGen Discussion Group,
jewishgen@..., which has over 7500 subscribers.

Dick Plotz
Manager of Mailing Lists
JewishGen, Inc.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 9:58 AM <akolet@...> wrote:


I am Looking for survivors of Hungarian labor battalion 108/24.

My late father in law Zoltan Strohli, lost his entire family in Auschwitz, rescue 220 jews at the labor battalion in 1944,

Using Raul Wallenberg visas.

If you know any details please contact:

Abraham Kolet

Akolet@...



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Re: Trial #Poland

Avraham Groll
 

test

Moderation #Bessarabia

Avraham Groll
 

A new chat has been created:

for moderators

View/Join This Chat

Re: Trial #Poland

Martha Forsyth
 

Admittedly I've not been being a Good Citizen and keeping up with this.  But you don't want to know how long it took me to
  • go to the link
  • scroll down and not find this message
  • notice that there's a second PAGE of messages
  • Read the message and try to sign in, in order to reply
  • I'm not sure if I had to create a new ID in order to sign in, but I certainly had to create a new password (and I thought I was signing in from a different address than it ended up saving)
  • get to the point where I can write this message - still wondering if I should reply to the LATEST message in the list of messages, to the one I'd come in to read, or to the basic topic!
Presumably this will get much simpler if/when we really do adopt this system, but....it sure would discourage ME to have to go through processes like this!

Martha Forsyth (hating to have to learn new systems in order to continue doing things I've been doing for a long time!!)

Re: Testing the #Hashtags Function #Belarus

Rachel Kolokoff Hopper <r-hopper@...>
 

A little bit more on hashtags. To see how they function for this group, log in on line and go to "Messages". All of the messages that have been posted to the group appear here. Above all of the messages you will see a blue # Hashtags box.

 

Click on the blue box and you will see all of the hashtags that have been created to sort messages by subject.



Click on the #test hashtag and now you will see a screen that shows the number of messages with the hashtag "test". Look for the little black circle with the number in it to see how many messages there are related to this subject. In this case there are 6 messages with the hashtag "test." 



Click on the subject (test) and now you will see all of the messages related to this topic. 

Subscribers can create hashtags as they post, and moderators can create hashtags after the message is already posted. 

One way to sort messages into subjects that you are interested in.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 07:56 AM, Jan Fine wrote:
Hashtags apply to social media postings and make subjects searchable. This is something I work with a whole lot, but haven't done much with it genealogy-wise.  Will take a look on the jewishgen link and see...
 
So far I a finding this beta a bit awkward.  
 

Jan R. Fine
J.R. Fine Design
Graphic Design and
Digital Photo Restoration Specialist
mobile 202-487-0055
 
 

Re: Visit JewishGen’s New Website!

Juliana Berland <juliana.berland@...>
 

One thing that I'm bothered by is that when you go to the new site, there should be something at the top to allow you to login, no? I shouldn't have to click all over the place trying to figure out where to log in.

regards,
Juliana Berland