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Belarus SIG #Belarus Brest-Litovsk as place of birth #Belarus

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

I have replied to Fran Kastin privately, but I think that perhaps it may
be useful to post my reply to the list.

Without the records themselves to turn to, it is certainly possible that
Daniel Ewenczyk's reply is correct. Also, it may not necessarily be so.

Both my great-uncle Josef SINGER and his wife Rosa GOLDMANN
were >from Nowy Targ, a town due south of Krakow in Poland. For
some reason, now lost in the mists of time, one of their children was
born in Stanislawow in 1896 -- 214 miles east of Nowy Targ.

So part of the answer to Fran's question is that, yes, people traveled
some pretty great distances in that time period, and yes, it is possible
that Fran's father-in-law was indeed born in Brest-Litovsk.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA, USA
laguna@...

Belarus SIG #Belarus Email From Israel #Belarus

Michael Kaltman
 

A member of the Belarus SIG recently emailed me requesting information on
being of assistance on the Minsk records project. I mistakenly deleted the
email. If you recently emailed me and your email account is through
Israel's telephone company, please email again. Sorry for the delay.

Michael Kaltman
mkaltman1940@...

Belarus SIG #Belarus IOBA records #Belarus

abe simon
 

Does anyone know where I might find out if there are society records
available for the International Order of Brith/Bnai Abraham, IOBA? My
grandfathers, mgm, father, and other family members are buried in the IOBA
Lodge No. 300 Cemetery in Buffalo, NY. It has changed name or combined with
the North Park Cemetery. I have an old certificate of membership for my
grandfather and I have been to the graves at the cemetery. The basic name
and date records are online. Recently I tried on the Internet to see if
there is any central records location for this society but only got one hit
and it was not a recent address. I'm trying to find others >from the same
shtetls.
Thanks for any help.

Abe Simon
Las Vegas, NV
abe_simon@...

Belarus SIG #Belarus Brest-Litovsk Birth #Belarus

Barbara Musikar
 

My grandfather, Abe KLEMPNER and his siblings were born in Brest-Litovsk and
lived there
until they left for the United States at the turn of the last century. While
a researcher was not able to locate my grandfather's 1883 birth record in
the Minsk archives, he was able to locate the marriage record of of my
grandfather's eldest sister and a birth record of a younger sister who died
in infancy. Since my great grandparents were born and lived originally in
Kobryn a city about 50 miles east of Brest-Litovsk, the family was
registered in Kobryn even though they had changed their residence to
Brest-Litovsk by 1880. I hope that this is helpful.

Barbara Musikar
President JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
VP Programming

Belarus SIG #Belarus ASARKEWICZ, ASARKOF BLUMEN #Belarus

lbb47@...
 

Hello
By an odd set of events I have received a copy of my grandparents
marriage certificate >from a relative.
I was astounded to see that their last names had been switched by an
unknown clerk in the marriage licensing office.
My grandmothers last name which was Blumen was listed as ASARKOF
and my grandfathers last name which was Asarkof was listed as BLOOM.
My father had no idea this switch and change of the names had occurred
but certainly clears up why we have no relatives with the last name of Bloom!

I am now researching the original Asarkewicz, Asarkof(f) and Blumen.

Lois Bloom Barnett
Boston Ma

Belarus SIG #Belarus Minsk 1889 Death Records #Belarus

David Feldman <david.feldman@...>
 

We are pleased to announce we have just put up over 700 death records from
Minsk into the All Belarus Database.

The original record book of the 1889 Minsk Death Records was found in a used
book store in Minsk, Belarus The book was purchased by Belarus SIG founder
and former coordinator, David Fox. He digitally photographed each page of
the book and sent the images to Vitaly Charny, a SIG volunteer, who
translated the Cyrillic portion of the record. The Czarist Jewish death
registers (as well as the birth, marriage, and divorces registers were
created by the official government rabbis in two copies. One copy was
provided to the government and the other was maintained by the Jewish
community. It was rumored that this 1889 death register was found in the
attic of a building under renovation. As with all Czarist era Jewish
metrical books, data was recorded in both Russian (Cyrillic) and Hebrew
(without vowels). The images that are linked to this file clearly indicate
that the data was kept in both languages. The Hebrew part of the records
were not translated. It should be pointed out the given names on the Hebrew
side may be different than the name recorded on the Russian side.

These death records include:
1. Surname and given name of the deceased
2. Father’s (of deceased) given name of deceased
3. Grandfather’s (of deceased) given name
4. Residence (for many entries, there are cities other then Minsk)
5. Date Buried in Gregorian calendar (day, month, year) and Hebrew calendar
(day and month)
6. Date of Death in Gregorian Gregorian calendar (day, month, year) and
Hebrew calendar (day and month)
7. Age at death
8. Cause of Death
9. Town (where death occurred)
10. Place Recorded (town where death was recorded)
11. Year (year death was recorded)
12. Record Number (consecutively number >from beginning of year by sex M
(male) or F (female).

Please note that if you click on the name of the person who died, you will
be able to view the image of the death record in the record book. Thanks to
Warren Blatt for formatting and creating the programming that allows users
to link to the actual image of the record.

David Feldman
Sharon Fingold
SIG Coordinators

Belarus SIG #Belarus Kustanovitz--Birth in BrestLitovsk #Belarus

Fran Kastin <fkastin@...>
 

Thanks to all of you who E-mailed me with information and/or opinions on
whether my father-in-law, Jack Kastin, whose family was >from Lyuban, could
possibly have been born in Brest-Litovsk in 1893 as he claimed in the two
documents I saw with a birth town stated. They were a 1930 ship passenger
list originating in Buenos Aires and a 1942 Draft registration >from Queens,
NY. The majority opinion was that it was possible. Of course it is also
possible he lied, but in the place and time frames of the documents I saw, I
don't see the "motive". It would be interesting to know what verification,
if any, he had to supply to obtain his Argentine visa to come to the U.S. I
have his Argentine marriage certificate, and it just says he was born in
Poland--and I bet that wasn't verified, as it says for my mother-in-law that
she was born in "North America"--which she wasn't! ( She was a naturalized
U.S.citizen, though, and went to Argentina specifically to marry him and
bring him here.) I haven't seen any of the records he came TO Argentina with
about 1922--before the Brest records were destroyed?? As for the 1942 "old
men's" draft registration, I really don't see a reason to lie. His
naturalization certificate of 1939 has only "Poland". So, I guess this
remains a mystery!

Fran Kastin,
Staten island NY.
fkastin@....

Belarus SIG #Belarus Fw: NAROTSKY family #Belarus

Marsha Stanton <mjmc4@...>
 

I am researching my NAROTSKY family >from Russia. I believe the family came
to NYC in 1910, >from Ellis Island and ship manifests. The father, Judel,
and wife and children. The documents indicate they came >from Smorgon.
Recently I came across Judel NAROTSKY, same age and town going >from Hamburg
to London in 1904. I seem to have hit a wall. I don't know how to
proceed.
Did he stay in London? Go back to Russia? Did his family join him there?
I have found him on the 1920 census in Rochester, NY and his remarriage in
1923 in Cleveland, Ohio but nothing after that.
Any suggestions would be most helpful!
Thanks!

Marsha Stanton
Winchester,Va
mstanton4@...

Researching:
Narotsky (Vilna Gubernia)
Belestosky (Grodno Gubernia)

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please reply privately

Belarus SIG #Belarus Looking for Jakob/Yakov GELFAND #Belarus

"בתיה גוטליב
 

Hello to Belarus Siggers,

My aunt's father Jakob GELFAND was born in Berest-Litovesk on 15.7.1916
to Hilel and Golda GELFAND.
He studied Electrical Engineering and was a member of the Beitar Movement.
As far as we know he was a friend of Menahem Begin.
In 1939 he ran to Warsaw with his wife. His daughter (my aunt)was born
in Warsaw Ghetto. She was told that he ran away >from the Ghetto and
volunteered to the Red Army. She used to have his photo as a
soldier.(lost it)
Can anyone help in tracing him and his family? We don't have any
knowledge of any member of that family.
Any answer and information
will be appreciated

Batya Gottlieb
Israel
batyagot@...
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please reply privately

Belarus SIG #Belarus ZLOTNIK #Belarus

Sam Glaser <asglaser@...>
 

I'm researching my grandfather and reposting since I've got additional
information that may lead to discovery of family members.

My grandfather Israel ZLOTNIK (changed his name to ZLOTNICK) came to the US
in 1905 >from Ivanava, Belarus. He was born around 1879 and married my
grandmother Gasia (Gisse) GOLUBOWSKY (still trying to verify her surname)
from Kobrin, Belarus. She followed him to the US in 1908 with their daughter
Augusta (Gittel) who was born in 1904.
They landed in New York and proceeded to live in Kansas City, Kansas,
Chicago, Illinois, Evansville, Indiana and finally in Salt Lake City, Utah.
On the ships manifest it indicates that he was joining his brother Mordche
in New York (I've never heard of this relation before).
Either he or my grandmother had relatives living in Kansas City, Missouri
named Rabinowitz and others living in Chicago, IL named Pinsley (changed
there name >from Pinsky).
I have all the census information >from the US on them in addition to the
boat records. I'm really interested in relatives, either here or in Belarus.

Thanks,

Samuel Glaser
Fairfax, VA
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Private replies requested

Belarus SIG #Belarus VOIDNIK and WILEDNIK family #Belarus

Shelly Crane
 

Hello,

I recently discovered the maiden name of my GG GM >from the Ukraine, who
immigrated to Johnstown, Pennsylvania. I do not know her Yiddish given name as
of yet, but she was Bessie nee WILEDNIK, married to Rafal KVACHINSKI.
(changed to KWAIT in the US). They lived in Berdychiv, Samgorodok and Pliskov,
Ukraine, which is within a 100 mile radius of Kiev. Haven't verified this
from Bessie's death certificate and gravestone as of yet, but her brother
Joseph's records >from New York suggests their parents were "Charles" and Esther
nee HALPERIN or GOLDSTEIN. Esther's (born circa 1845) parents were Joshua and
Pearl.

The surname according to Alexander Beider "A Dictionary of Jewish Surnames
from the Russian Empire," is geographically derived and refers to the town
of Veledniki, which is currently called Novyye Veledniki, Ukraine and is
approximately 100 miles northwest of Kiev and near the current border with
Belarus.

If you are researching these surnames, please contact me privately.


Thank you,
Shelly Levin
USA
crzprncess@...

Kiev area of Ukraine: BERKA, BLAZ, COUNTER, GITERMAN, GLASS, GOLDSTEIN,
KANTOR, KVACHINSKIJ, KWAIT, LEFELMAN, LIPOVETSKY, NIRENBERG, SHIFFMAN,
TITKOVA, ZEISLER.
. Gorodkovka, Myastkovka; Tomoshpol Ukraine: and Chisinau (Moldova):
AISENSHTEIN, GARBER, PODOLSKI:

Belarus SIG #Belarus Bessie, Rafal, Charles and Pearl-- "yiddish names" #Belarus

Herbert Lazerow
 

"I recently discovered the maiden name of my GG GM >from the
Ukraine... I do not know her Yiddish given name as of yet, but she
was Bessie nee WILEDNIK, married to Rafal KVACHINSKI.
(changed to KWAIT in the US). ... her brother Joseph's records
from New York suggests their parents were "Charles" and Esther nee
HALPERIN or GOLDSTEIN. Esther's (born circa 1845) parents were
Joshua and Pearl."
Guessing someone's given name in the old country >from the
name they used after immigration is always hazardous, but one can set
up some working hypotheses:
Bessie is often Basya or Bassheva; Rafael is a biblical name; Charles
is often Betzalel, sometimes abbreviated in Ukraine to Tsalel; Perla
and Perlya are yiddish names not uncommonly used in Ukraine.
Bert

Herbert Lazerow
lazer@...
San Diego CA 92110-2492

Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Bessie, Rafal, Charles and Pearl-- "yiddish names" #Belarus

les evenchick
 

My mothers aunt was Basia and brother was Rafael -
from the Sephardic side of my family (PASTERNAK).
My 2nd cousin Charles Evans(EVENCHICK) was named after
his greatgrandfather Zachary EVENCHIK >from Koidanov,
Belarus.

Les EVENCHICK
New Orleans,La

--- Bert Lazerow <lazer@...> wrote:

"I recently discovered the maiden name of my GG GM
>from the
Ukraine... I do not know her Yiddish given name as...


Guessing someone's given name in the old
country >from the
name they used after immigration is always
hazardous, but one can set
up some working hypotheses:
Bessie is often Basya or Bassheva; Rafael is a
biblical name; Charles

to Tsalel; Perla
and Perlya are yiddish names not uncommonly used in
Ukraine.
Bert

Herbert Lazerow

Belarus SIG #Belarus Bessie, Rafal, Charles and Pearl-- "yiddish names" #Belarus

Michael Gerver <mjgerver@...>
 

Bessie is also often used for Pessi or Pessia, sometimes pronounced
Pesha. And Tsalel, or Tsala, as a nickname for Betzalel, is not
limited to Ukraine. At least one relative of mine used it in Belarus,
specifically in Derechin.

Mike Gerver
Raanana, Israel



"Subject: Bessie, Rafal, Charles and Pearl-- "yiddish names"
Guessing someone's given name in the old country >from the
name they used after immigration is always hazardous, but one can set
up some working hypotheses:
Bessie is often Basya or Bassheva; Rafael is a biblical name; Charles
is often Betzalel, sometimes abbreviated in Ukraine to Tsalel; Perla
and Perlya are yiddish names not uncommonly used in Ukraine."
Bert

Belarus SIG #Belarus Fw: Searching: EINHORN #Belarus

Henry Einhorn
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Henry Einhorn
To: belarus@...
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: Searching: EINHORN


Researching EINHORN family (also EINGORN or EINKHORN) with roots from
mid-17th to early 20th c. in Wolkovisk, Suwalki, Grodno, Kedainai, Slonim
Suchowolia, and
Bialystock. Names include: Oser (d. 1775?), Issar (b. 1750-1770?), Zvi
Hirsch (business in
Slonim), Rabbi Zvi Wolf and Miryam (these b. 1780-1820s?); Issar "der
Grosser" (resided in
Grodno), Schmuel Leib, Yitzak, Eliahu (resided in Suwalki), Rabbi Abraham
(Suchowolia),
Sarah Reizel, Moshe (Kedainai, settled in Bialystock) and Elke (these b.
1810-1840s?).
Others in this range: Chaim Ozer (settled in Wolkovisk), Reichel, Aaron
Isaac, Hinda,
Abraham Israel, Eliahu and Oser "der Moskever".

Henry Einhorn,
50 Staniford St., Apt. 617, Boston, MA 02114
henry.einhorn@...; tel. 617-523-0773.
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Belarus SIG #Belarus RAFAL #Belarus

Adam Davis <adamrdavis@...>
 

My Jewish name is Avrom Refoyl, which is a derivation of Raphael. So its
use is not necessarily limited to Sephardim.

Adam Davis
Chicago

researching Dobzewitz


"Subject: Re: Bessie, Rafal, Charles and Pearl-- "yiddish names"
From: les evenchick <piratefish@...>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:04:46 -0800 (PST)

My mothers aunt was Basia and brother was Rafael -

from the Sephardic side of my family (PASTERNAK)."

Belarus SIG #Belarus Chicago 2008 - new information #Belarus

ANNE LEE <information@...>
 

We are pleased to let you know about two updates to our Chicago2008
Conference Registration form:

1. You can now sign up for Breakfasts with Experts. There will be two such
Breakfasts on each day Monday thru Thursday. These are times when you can
ask questions and get answers >from an expert on an informal basis while
getting your nourishment for the day at the same time. We think you will
find the topics of interest - check them out and sign up.

2. We have added a question about whether you plan to visit a Jewish
cemetery while in Chicago and if so, which. By responding to this question,
you will help us plan for group transportation to those various cemeteries,
all of which are located some distance >from the hotel.

If you have already registered, please go to Registration Update to sign up
for the Breakfasts and tell us about your cemetery visit plans.

If you have not already registered, remember that if you register for the
conference and the hotel by March 15, 2008 you are eligible for a drawing
for a free hotel room during the conference week (see website for more
details).

The conference website is: www.Chicago2008.org.

We look forward to seeing you in Chicago!

On behalf of the IAJGS and our co-hosts,the JGS of Illinois and the Illiana JGS,
Chicago 2008 Co-chairs
Anne Feder Lee
Mike Posnick
Joel Spector

Belarus SIG #Belarus Borisov Cemetery Data--Couldn't Find Promised List #Belarus

ENFJBri@...
 

Hello, Everyone!

On Jewishgen I just came across a very nice email >from Rav Eliyahu Tavger
dated February 8, 1999. He provided a list of surnames of persons buried in
the Borisov Cemetery. A note >from Jewishgen on the bottom of the email says
that the full list, including names, dates, and names of fathers would be
posted to the Belarus SIG site--and not to trouble Rav Tavger with individual
requests.

Was that done? I couldn't seem to find any reference to that list. I would
appreciate it if someone could point me to the correct location. I am
particularly interested in at least two family names mentioned in the email:
KABAKOV and FEIMAN. On the other hand, if the cemetery list was never added to
the website, what happened? Who has a copy of that information?

Thanks!

Brian Neil Burg
Fullerton, CA

Researching:
KABAKOFF & PORTNOI >from Dokshitsy and nearby shtetlach (Minsk Gub.);
CHAJKIELSON, GOLUBSKI, TYLZANSKI, & KRZYWULSKI f/Suwalki and WASZKIEWICZ
BAILIN & RIKLIN >from Klintsy & Surazh (Chernigov Gub.);
CHARATZ and BIK >from Staraya Sinyava & Khmielnik (Podolsk Gub.);
FRYDMAN, GUTMAN, JASKULKA & JASTRZAB f/Sokolow Podlaski, Wegrow, & Sterdyn
(Siedlce Gub.) & FRYDMAN later >from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Borisov Cemetery Data may be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/borisov_cemetery.htm

Belarus SIG #Belarus KAMENKERER, 1906, 1912 Pruzhany Voter's list #Belarus

Yohanan
 

I have been searching for the KAMINKER family >from Shereshevo.
I know about Solomon KAMINKER (changed later to KAMINSKY)
One of his sons was Hertz Kaminsky, born 1897 in Shereshevo.
I have just found in the 1906 and in the 1912 Grodno Gubernia, Pruzhany
Voter's list, Shereshevo,
KOMENKERER Gershko / Hershko and KOMENKERER Shlioma / Shlyoma, son of
Gershko.

I wonder, Can Solomon be Shlyoma?
Can KOMENKERER be another version of KAMINKER?

Any of the researchers may know where to check the exact Russian
spelling in the original list, or where to find more information about the
above.
I understand there was a 1907 Voter's list, but I could not find it.
Also, it looks like the JG Grodno Genealogy Group website has not been
updated since 2002. Is it still active?

Yohanan Loeffler
Melbourne Australia

MODERATOR'S NOTE: The JewishGen Grodno Genealogy Group is active and
currently assisting researchers as needed.

Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Borisov cemetery #Belarus

Joyce Field
 

Brian Neil Burg asked about the whereabouts of Borisov burials. Thirty-five
burial records >from the Borisov cemetery are in JewishGen's Online Worldwide
Burial Registry (JOWBR), a searchable database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/.

Joyce Field
JewishGen's VP, Data Acquisition