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Deep ancestry of the Maharal

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

On Geni, I am proposing to sever the deep ancestry of the Maharal, which appears to be invented and without any reasonable source. I am sure people will be upset, but if you disagree, please follow the discussion at https://www.geni.com/discussions/194554 and add some sources to the profiles.

To be clear, I am proposing to sever the Maharal's maternal grandfather Chaim from his father.
https://www.geni.com/people/Chaim-Loew-Beer-Maharal-Mat-Gd-father/4440207356100031885

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA

Re: name translation help

Susan&David
 

Maybe the clerk was told Faigela and  heard it as  Fikela

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 11/12/2019 10:38 AM, sarahlmeyer@... wrote:
Have you checked the given names database on Jewishgen.org for suggestions?  Also remember that when you look in the US censuses there were times when Poland did not exist, it was either Russia (eastern and central) or Germany/Prussia (western).  Many people Americanized their names by using the first letter.  I have seen many instances of the name Sam when the Hebrew/Yiddish name was not Shmuel.  No idea of Filda - could the name have been Tilda?

Apotheker family in USA

Neil Rosenstein
 

Trying to make contact with descendants of this family which traces
back to Landau rabbinical family of Sanz. One - Rabbi Aryey Leib
Aoptheker lived in New York (1846-1942). On Kevarim.com there for him
was a posting by David Apotheker of Stoughton, MA. Any contact
information would be appreciated.

Hamaui in Argentina ?

Barbara Mannlein
 

HI Ruben, 

Wonder if you can direct me to a source other than CEMLA, for locating info on an uncle. 


BTW, my maternal Weiser line is from Buczacz and Tarnopol.  

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ



Immigration Records found for surname HAMAUI 

Surname: HAMAUI -
Name
Age
Marital
Status
Occupation
Religion
Nationality
Ship
Procedence
Arrival Info
Born in
day/month/year - Port
HAMAUI, LOULOU MALIQUE HARARI52CCASERACATOLICASIRIAOCEANIATRIESTE24/07/1939 - BUENOS AIRESALEPPO


HAMAUI, VICTOR31SCOMERCIOPROTESTANTEINGLESAAVELONALONDRES26/03/1931 - BUENOS AIRESMANCHESTER


SOLIMAN, HAMAUI16SBRACCIANTEMUSULMANASIRIASARDEGNAGENOVA01/09/1911 - BUENOS AIRES


On Nov 12, 2019, at 12:55 PM, rubweiser@... wrote:
anybody with ancestors in rzeszow poland from 1790 to 1840
and want to try to learn more about them
please send to me names and dates so i can make a fast look up

thanks
ruben weiser
buenos aires
argentina
_._,_._,

Constantinople 1890's-Egypt #advice

nardir4@...
 

My Grandmother Louise (bernhardson,bernardson,bernhardt,berman??) was born in then
Constantinople into a family of merchants.The family apparently also had interests in a water bottling plant in Egypt.or so we were told.

Her mother Susan Sarah (Barris,Beinich??) died in 1894 giving birth to her 3rd child Isadore.

Her father Abraham came from Roumania as a 1 month old baby in 1858.

his (Abraham’s) parents were Moses Ber and Nahame.

My grandmother went to the once prestigious German School in Constantinople.

She had a cousin also named Louise about the same age who later married a

Moritz Kremer,a jeweler in Cairo.There was a common uncle of the Louises named Ignatz also in Cairo.Louise Kremer had 6 children,the eldest named Emmanuel.

After my grandmothers mothers death the family moved to Thessalonika,and then to London about 1896

My grandmothers mtdna Haplogroup is N1b1b1.

If there is anyone out there that can recognise even the smallest detail in this sketchy outline(which is all we know) I would be ever so grateful to hear from you.

Robin S

nardir4@...

Old maps site

Avraham Y. Kahana
 

Not sure if this will be useful for you, but I thought sharing the following site I just discovered:

https://www.oldmapsonline.org/

It has a collection of old maps.

Avraham

israel

Re: Rzeszow mescellanious records 1790 - 1840 #Galicia #Poland #commercial

warrenkarpf@...
 

Hi Ruben,
I have just returned from Rzeszow where I spent time at the records office as I am looking for information on my paternal family...KARPF.
I have plenty of information on my maternal side which was Nieder/Koretz....a complete family tree and addresses etc. but very little on my Father's side.
Any help would be appreciated.
I have photos and information from this visit if anyone requires.
Regards
Warren Karpf (Scotland)

Re: Rzeszow mescellanious records 1790 - 1840 #Galicia #Poland #commercial

יצחק הלר
 

Hi Ruben
Please look up for TENZER and HELLER for me.
part of family lived in Tyczyn
best regards
Itzchak Heller
Tel Aviv
Israel

Re: Rzeszow mescellanious records 1790 - 1840 #Galicia #Poland #commercial

Ruben Weiser
 

No tenzer or héller sorry

 

De: יצחק הלר <iheller7@...>
Enviado el: miércoles, 13 de noviembre de 2019 10:33
Para: main@...; rubweiser@...
Asunto: Re: Rzeszow mescellanious records 1790 - 1840

 

Hi Ruben

Please look up for TENZER and HELLER for me.

part of family lived in Tyczyn

best regards

Itzchak Heller

Tel Aviv

Israel

Re: name translation help

Barbara Mannlein
 

I think David Rosen may have it!   Faigele/Feigele could easily have been written by a non-Jewish clerk as Fikela… 
    (Yiddish/German words ending in an e are usually pronounced ah  — think Porsche….  

On Nov 12, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Susan&David <rosens@...> wrote:

Maybe the clerk was told Faigela and  heard it as  Fikela

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 11/12/2019 10:38 AM, sarahlmeyer@... wrote:
Have you checked the given names database on Jewishgen.org for suggestions?  Also remember that when you look in the US censuses there were times when Poland did not exist, it was either Russia (eastern and central) or Germany/Prussia (western).  Many people Americanized their names by using the first letter.  I have seen many instances of the name Sam when the Hebrew/Yiddish name was not Shmuel.  No idea of Filda - could the name have been Tilda?

Question about obtaining Death Records from St. Petersburg

stephen cohen
 

I was able to obtain a photograph of the headstone of my great great
grandmother, Rebecca Pinchuk, from the Jewish Cemetery in St.
Petersburg. Per the headstone, she died in 1933. I was wondering if
anyone knew if there are surviving death records for this time in St.
Petersburg. If so, would anyone know how to go about obtaining a
copy. Is there a Russian archive in St. Petersburg to contact?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Stephen Cohen

Re: Germany Easing of Restoration of German Citizenship for Descendants of Nazi Persecution #Germany

David Cherson
 

Hi,
Personally I am glad to see Germany move further in reconciliation, etc., and I have always maintained that they are far ahead of Austria in this regard.  However I find it absurd and a little bit insulting to see Jews trying to claim German citizenship.  I can't help but think that there are two things that influence this "movement" and have very little to do with German reconciliation. One is how people view the current (US) administration (yes, "him") and their fears of the US going extreme right-wing (won't happen, we are still and will remain a democracy), and two not giving a thought to aliyah to Israel because of their dislike of Netanyahu, et.al.  Well they still engage in free and democratic elections in Israel (perhaps too many lol) and once you become a citizen you can vote.  I did and I have voted in past elections.  But if you really do want to acquire German citizenship then I would require that you do the following: for men, put on a kippah and walk the streets of German cities, say Berlin for example.  Or for both men and women wear some identifying clothing that makes gentiles think that you are Jewish, whether you are or not.  If you come out of that experience with no problems, etc. then fine become a German citizen if that is what you want.  As my father would say "Gain und zay gezint". 

Re: Deep ancestry of the Maharal

Rodger Cooper
 

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Rabbi Judah ben Bezalel Maharal of Prague Loew

Rabbi Judah ben Bezalel Maharal of Prague Loew

1512–1609

Birth 10 APR 1512 Pösen, Saale-Holzland-Kreis, Thueringen, Germany

Death 22 AUG 1609 Praha, Central Bohemia, Czech Republic

 
 
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Relationship to me

Rabbi Judah ben Bezalel Maharal of Prague Loew 1512-1609
6th great-grandfather of wife of 3rd great-uncle
 
Gitele Loew 1550-1635
Daughter of Rabbi Judah ben Bezalel Maharal of Prague Loew
 
 
Shimon HaLevi Brandeis 1635-1665
Son of Shmuel HaLevi Brandeis
 
Rauchama Nechama Brandeis(Perels) -1745
Daughter of Shimon HaLevi Brandeis
 
Merjam Perels
Daughter of Rauchama Nechama Brandeis(Perels)
 
Beer Aron Pereles (Porges)
Son of Merjam Perels
 
Maria Pereles (Porges)
Daughter of Beer Aron Pereles (Porges)
 
Ester Porges 1804-1859
Daughter of Maria Pereles (Porges)
 
Simon Juda Austerlitz 1797-1864
Husband of Ester Porges
 
Juda Jakob Austerlitz 1759-1829
Father of Simon Juda Austerlitz
 
Herschmann Austerlitz 1791-1859
Son of Juda Jakob Austerlitz
 
Emanuel Harry Austerlitz 1839-1927
Son of Herschmann Austerlitz
 
Harry Emanuel Austerlitz 1870-1918
Son of Emanuel Harry Austerlitz
 
Carolyn Miller Cooper 1908-1990
Daughter of Harry Emanuel Austerlitz
 
Rodger Wallis Cooper
You are the son of Carolyn Miller Cooper

Re: Deep ancestry of the Maharal

Moishe Miller
 

Randy,
Could you outline your goals in GENI? Are you going to be locking/curating profiles so others can't go back and re-create the same issue? 

Moishe Miller

Re: Deep ancestry of the Maharal

E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Yes. That is exactly what we are doing. Curators can now lock the profiles to prevent the addition of erroneous profiles. I am trying to clean up at least the top of the Maharal tree, based on recent scholarship, especially A. Putik and D. Polakovic (2009) 'Judah Loew ben Bezalel, Called Maharal. A study on his genealogy and biography', in P. Demetz (ed) Path of Life. Rabbi Judah Loew ben Bezalel ca. 1525*1609, Academia, Prague, pp29-83. You can follow the discussions at https://www.geni.com/discussions/204049?msg=1343381 and https://www.geni.com/discussions/194554.

Apparently there are about 250,000 people descended from the Maharal on Geni. (I am just one of them.) Geni works like a giant jigsaw puzzle where we all collaborate and work together on the same tree. There are about 200 volunteer curators, like me, who can help resolve disputes and lock down profiles. The system works very well.

Randy Schoenberg

Re: Rzeszow mescellanious records 1790 - 1840 #Galicia #Poland #commercial

Dhalford7@...
 

This is probably of no help but three times great grandmother was Malka Heller from Belarus.

She married a Dovid Bargman.

Good luck,
Diane Halford

Re: Deep ancestry of the Maharal and others #Austria-Czech

Moishe Miller
 

Randy,
As you go about cleaning up, kindly reach out to me if you plan on cleaning up ancestry related to R' Elimelech Weissbloom (aka the Noam Elimelech, aka The Rebbe, Reb Mylech, aka R' Elimelech of Lizhensk), his nephew, Pesach Langsam, or his great- nephew, R' Tzvi Elimelech Spira (1783-1841, aka R' Hersh Mylech Spira, aka the Bnei Yissoschur).
 
Thank you for your efforts,
Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
moishe.miller@...

TEDESCO-Venice originally DEUTSCH from Austria? #Austria-Czech

Debbie Lifshitz
 

I've hit a brick wall.
My TEDESCO family lived in Venice at least from the early 1790s, perhaps before, but not long.
They appear on the initial Census of Jews circa 1898 as Todesco d'Autriche. After that they appear in later censuses as TEDESCO. All first names and ages match. The family definitely lived in the Ashkenazi ghetto and spoke Yiddish (as well as Italian).
On the other hand, Selig Goldschmidt of Frankfurt, whose daughter married a Tedesco, wrote in his autobiography that the TEDESCO family originally came from Baden and that their original name was DEUTSCH.
Problems: Jews were not allowed to live in Baden near Vienna before 1806 (Encyclopedia Judaica and The Encyclopedia of Jewish Life), therefore this is not where they came from.
Germany, of course has a region called Baden but I am not sure how to proceed given that this is a region and not a town. 
Also, if they did come from Vienna (rather than Baden), would there be any documentation?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Debbie Lifschitz
Jerusalem

Mt Zion Cemetery Project Volunteers

A. E. Jordan
 

A project is underway to catalog and hopefully map one of the largest individual plots at Mt Zion Cemetery in Queens, New York.  Thanks to a great group of volunteers from this discussion group, the Long Island JGS, and other social media sites we had a dozen people last Sunday and photographed over 2,000 stones including a lot of children.  The total plot is approximately 2,700 graves.

It's a first step that will now require sorting and reviewing the photos.  Some will need to be reshot and it appears we might have missed a few rows in the plot, so it will take time to complete but we got a great start.  With a little bit of luck we maybe able to create map to the plot as well as one does not exist currently.

Specially the plot is known as Judah-1 in the Mt Zion database with burials dating mostly from the 1890 to the 1930s.  If anyone here knows specially that they are looking for graves in the Judah-1 plot you can email me directly with the details.  At the moment, I have no way to locate the individual photos but as they are reviewed I can keep an eye out for the names.  But again that is only if they are specifically in Judah-1.

In the meantime, I wanted to say a big personal thank you to everyone who offered encouragement and specifically to: Alec Ferretti; Alex Calzareth; Barry Goldberg; Bill and Elaine Farran; Cat Hollander; Jeff Kagan; Lauren Orenstein; Norit Har-zvi; Renee Steineg; and Robyn Mooney for giving so generously of their time and for their efforts in producing these photos.

Allan Jordan

Call for Papers for the Galitzianer

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Gesher Galicia’s journal, the Galitzianer, invites members and non-members of Gesher Galicia to submit articles with a clear connection to Jewish life in Austrian Galicia (1772–1918). Submissions can also relate to Jewish life in the territory of former Galicia during the interwar period and the Holocaust.

 

Although the subject area is broad, here are some suggestions for possible article submissions: 

  • Family stories, including ones that involve archival records from Galicia and other sources that have reshaped your understanding of your own family history
  • Profiles of Jewish writers, musicians, artists, political figures, or others who were active in Galicia
  • The intergenerational tensions over education and professional careers for Jewish women in Galicia 

Prior to submitting an article, please contact me at submissions@... with a brief description of your proposal. Once accepted, all submitted articles undergo editorial review and revisions to make sure they conform to the style and standards of the journal.

 

For more information about the Galitzianer, including instructions for authors, please consult our website at https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/.

 

Thank you,

 

Jodi G. Benjamin

Editor, The Galitzianer

Gesher Galicia


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