I am trying to find out what happened to the family >from Chmielnik, Poland
with the surname BESENDORF who came to Argentina I believe before the war.
They were good friend of the Price's of Toronto.
The following are vital statistics for this surname >from the LDS
microfilm #1808865:
1881, marriage, Nuchem B
1882 births, Pearl Bas B.
1883 birth, Chena B.

Thank you, David Price
Researching BESENDORF, PRICE

I am trying to find out what happened to the family >from Chmielnik, Poland
with the surname BESENDORF who came to Argentina I believe before the war.
They were good friend of the Price's of Toronto.
The following are vital statistics for this surname >from the LDS
microfilm #1808865:
1881, marriage, Nuchem B
1882 births, Pearl Bas B.
1883 birth, Chena B.

Thank you, David Price
Researching BESENDORF, PRICE

http://www.ae.poznan.pl/~pjk/tree/potd.htm
"Polish Online Talking Dictionary"

I haven't tried to use this site, but it appears to be an interesting
concept. According to the directions, it may take a week or two, but you
can hear how the Polish phrase, town, etc. is actually pronounced. You can
even decide whether you want the voice to be male or female.

Debbie Raff

I just read an article in our Jewish Community News about the restoration
of the Othel Rachel Synagogue in Shanghai. According to the article,
interior can never be completely restored until those in charge of
the
work know exactly what it looked like.
There are no official interior photographs. It is hoped that
for the
few years between the end of WWII and 1949, when all the members of the
synagogue were forced to leave Shanghai, some services were held during
which the no photos rule MAY not have been enforced
The article gives the name, address, and phone number of someone >from the
Pasadena Jewish Temple in CA. I have no other knowledge of this, other than
what I read in the article. If, perchance, you have or know someone who has
interior photos of this synagogue, e-mail me privately and I'll send you
the information on the contact person.

Debbie Raff
Indio, CA
HERBACH / BIRNBAUM / BIRENBAUM (Nowy Sacz, Pol and Lipany,Slovakia)
KORNFELD / LAWNER / GERMAN/ WEITMAN (Husiatyn, Usjad, Woloczysk, Ukr)
RAFF / SICHERMAN / MEISNER/ KATZ / GRUNSPANN / GREENSPAN / EICHNER(Zmigro=
d
Nowy / Bukowsko / Dukla / Korczyna, Pol)

http://www.ae.poznan.pl/~pjk/tree/potd.htm
"Polish Online Talking Dictionary"

I haven't tried to use this site, but it appears to be an interesting
concept. According to the directions, it may take a week or two, but you
can hear how the Polish phrase, town, etc. is actually pronounced. You can
even decide whether you want the voice to be male or female.

Debbie Raff

I just read an article in our Jewish Community News about the restoration
of the Othel Rachel Synagogue in Shanghai. According to the article,
interior can never be completely restored until those in charge of
the
work know exactly what it looked like.
There are no official interior photographs. It is hoped that
for the
few years between the end of WWII and 1949, when all the members of the
synagogue were forced to leave Shanghai, some services were held during
which the no photos rule MAY not have been enforced
The article gives the name, address, and phone number of someone >from the
Pasadena Jewish Temple in CA. I have no other knowledge of this, other than
what I read in the article. If, perchance, you have or know someone who has
interior photos of this synagogue, e-mail me privately and I'll send you
the information on the contact person.

Debbie Raff
Indio, CA
HERBACH / BIRNBAUM / BIRENBAUM (Nowy Sacz, Pol and Lipany,Slovakia)
KORNFELD / LAWNER / GERMAN/ WEITMAN (Husiatyn, Usjad, Woloczysk, Ukr)
RAFF / SICHERMAN / MEISNER/ KATZ / GRUNSPANN / GREENSPAN / EICHNER(Zmigro=
d
Nowy / Bukowsko / Dukla / Korczyna, Pol)

YEZARSKY>Vilnius, Lithuania>West Hazelton, PA, USA 1890
DROBNUS>Vilnius, Lithuania>West Hazelton, PA, USA 1890

I am trying to find out if my husband's paternal grandparents listed above
have Jewish related names. In reading articles posted at this web site,
"Ha Magid- 1871-1872," and "Ha Melitz 1893-1903" donors >from Lithuania
I found the name YEZERSKI listed as a donor in both articles.

I have had difficulty in finding the surname YEZARSKY posted in any data
bases in the past. I am confident the spelling changed when my husband's
grandparents came to America, and have been unable to find out the
origin of the name or the original spelling.

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated!

Alice Yezarski
Morehead City, NC

YEZARSKY>Vilnius, Lithuania>West Hazelton, PA, USA 1890
DROBNUS>Vilnius, Lithuania>West Hazelton, PA, USA 1890

I am trying to find out if my husband's paternal grandparents listed above
have Jewish related names. In reading articles posted at this web site,
"Ha Magid- 1871-1872," and "Ha Melitz 1893-1903" donors >from Lithuania
I found the name YEZERSKI listed as a donor in both articles.

I have had difficulty in finding the surname YEZARSKY posted in any data
bases in the past. I am confident the spelling changed when my husband's
grandparents came to America, and have been unable to find out the
origin of the name or the original spelling.

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated!

Alice Yezarski
Morehead City, NC

The San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society
announces its next meeting:

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 1998
Building C, Room 205
Fort Mason Center
San Francisco

Doors open 12:30, Program begins 1:00

Topic: Preserving the Stories of Old Photographs

Philip Adam of Restored Photographics will speak about the various types of
old photographs and how to care for them. Philip will also preview his
upcoming book of photographs and oral histories.

Join us!

Visit our website at: www.jewishgen.org/sfbajgs

For more information, contact:
Rodger Rosenberg, President, eandr@...
Dana Kurtz, Vice President, dlkurtz@...
Sita Likuski, Membership, sital@...
Judy Baston, Librarian, JRBaston@...

The San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society
announces its next meeting:

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 1998
Building C, Room 205
Fort Mason Center
San Francisco

Doors open 12:30, Program begins 1:00

Topic: Preserving the Stories of Old Photographs

Philip Adam of Restored Photographics will speak about the various types of
old photographs and how to care for them. Philip will also preview his
upcoming book of photographs and oral histories.

Join us!

Visit our website at: www.jewishgen.org/sfbajgs

For more information, contact:
Rodger Rosenberg, President, eandr@...
Dana Kurtz, Vice President, dlkurtz@...
Sita Likuski, Membership, sital@...
Judy Baston, Librarian, JRBaston@...

I'm just curious to know if there is enough interest in
forming a local Jewish Genealogical Society around the
twin cities Minneapolis-St Paul area. If so, please drop
me a line and we'll see where we can take it. I will let
anyone responding know what the count is at the end of October.

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN

Researching:
ALEXANDER-&-CHALL (Dvinsk,Russia (now Latvia); before 1900)
ZELMANOV-&-HALKIN (Bobruisk, Russia; before 1907) (France; abt 1930)
BECKER-&-CHASKELEVITZ-(became_CHASWORTH) (Kishenev, Bessarabia; before 1920) (Oreyev, abt 1940)
Someday BRODSKY, COHEN, KAPLAN (Poland / Russia)
* All ended up in various parts of New York City *

I'm just curious to know if there is enough interest in
forming a local Jewish Genealogical Society around the
twin cities Minneapolis-St Paul area. If so, please drop
me a line and we'll see where we can take it. I will let
anyone responding know what the count is at the end of October.

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN

Researching:
ALEXANDER-&-CHALL (Dvinsk,Russia (now Latvia); before 1900)
ZELMANOV-&-HALKIN (Bobruisk, Russia; before 1907) (France; abt 1930)
BECKER-&-CHASKELEVITZ-(became_CHASWORTH) (Kishenev, Bessarabia; before 1920) (Oreyev, abt 1940)
Someday BRODSKY, COHEN, KAPLAN (Poland / Russia)
* All ended up in various parts of New York City *

At 03:02 09/09/98, you wrote:

We received the German birth certificates of a few children of one family
which all have added information at the bottom about their deaths. The
details include exact date, the suburb in Sydney, and the Australian death
certificate reference number. It looks like there could be some sort of
agreement between Australia Germany to advise the their registry on the
death of any of its previous citizens.

One example -
born in Zulpich in 1901,
migrated to Australia in 1937,
naturalized in 1944,
died in 1979 - shows suburb, country, date, and ref no.

Has anyone else come across this? It could be related to a pension
agreement between Australia and Germany. And what paper trail did they
follow to match one reference against another, 80 years later and countries
apart.

Gary Luke

at a guess this is informatoin >from the German Reperations authorities
who are notified of the death to stop monies flowing

David Lewin
London

At 03:02 09/09/98, you wrote:

We received the German birth certificates of a few children of one family
which all have added information at the bottom about their deaths. The
details include exact date, the suburb in Sydney, and the Australian death
certificate reference number. It looks like there could be some sort of
agreement between Australia Germany to advise the their registry on the
death of any of its previous citizens.

One example -
born in Zulpich in 1901,
migrated to Australia in 1937,
naturalized in 1944,
died in 1979 - shows suburb, country, date, and ref no.

Has anyone else come across this? It could be related to a pension
agreement between Australia and Germany. And what paper trail did they
follow to match one reference against another, 80 years later and countries
apart.

Gary Luke

at a guess this is informatoin >from the German Reperations authorities
who are notified of the death to stop monies flowing

David Lewin
London

Finally someone has written a letter more clearly and succintly than I
myself could have done and has, for the most part, raised a problem which I
have raised in the past but much lesss clearly. Mr David Snyder, I thank
you very much for your posting on Jewish names and their "origins". I can
only hope that this has some beneficial effect on people who post queries
(sometimes previously frequently answered) on the "meanings" of names in
other languages. I must admit that I myself, unfortunately, on occasion,
fall into Mr Snyder's second category, (i.e., those who wish to prove their
own erudition, justified or not, rather than give direct answers to too
frequently asked questions). I gladly take note of your comments, and hope
that others of my ilk (of whom there are many, unfortunately) will also
take note.

If all these people take note of your comments and make use of the tools
existing within Jewishgen and in other places, it would save a lot of time,
space and effort within the Jewisshgen Digest for most readers, as well as
cut out a lot of wasted effort on the part of the overworked moderators
(may God bless them for their patience!).

In short, Mr Snyder, God bless you too!

All the best,
Chaim Charutz.

MODERATOR NOTE: And while He is bestowing blessings,
may many fall on your head.

Finally someone has written a letter more clearly and succintly than I
myself could have done and has, for the most part, raised a problem which I
have raised in the past but much lesss clearly. Mr David Snyder, I thank
you very much for your posting on Jewish names and their "origins". I can
only hope that this has some beneficial effect on people who post queries
(sometimes previously frequently answered) on the "meanings" of names in
other languages. I must admit that I myself, unfortunately, on occasion,
fall into Mr Snyder's second category, (i.e., those who wish to prove their
own erudition, justified or not, rather than give direct answers to too
frequently asked questions). I gladly take note of your comments, and hope
that others of my ilk (of whom there are many, unfortunately) will also
take note.

If all these people take note of your comments and make use of the tools
existing within Jewishgen and in other places, it would save a lot of time,
space and effort within the Jewisshgen Digest for most readers, as well as
cut out a lot of wasted effort on the part of the overworked moderators
(may God bless them for their patience!).

In short, Mr Snyder, God bless you too!

All the best,
Chaim Charutz.

MODERATOR NOTE: And while He is bestowing blessings,
may many fall on your head.

Jewish History Seminar in Vilna - >from Prof. Dov Levin

Body:
I am pleased to send you the program of the forthcoming
seminar in Vilnius. Please note that there may still be some changes
in the program.

Three professors >from Israel will take part in the seminar:
Prof.Dov Levin, Prof. Mordechai Altshuler, and Prof. Israel Bartal.

Professors Levin and Altshuler will be travelling >from
Jerusalem on Sunday, September 6, via Copenhagen, and will arrive on
Sunday evening. They will be staying at the Vilnius University guesthouse
through the seminar and beyond. They are returning to Israel on
Monday, September 14.

Prof. Bartal will be arriving in Vilnius >from Moscow on
Monday evening, September 7 and will return to Moscow on Thursday
morning, September 10. He will also be staying at the university guesthouse.

Sincerely yours,

Dov


Workshop on Integration of Jewish History and National
History in University Teaching in Lithuania

Vilnius, September 7-9, 1998

(program as of 30/8/98)

Monday, September 7, 1998

10:00 - 11:00 Greetings, Welcoming Remarks etc. (Vilnius
University authorities and departments)

Integration of Jewish History and National History in
University Teaching in Lithuania:

Introduction to the program
Prof. Dov Levin
Dr. Arunas Vysniauskas


11:00 - 18:00 Jews in Lithuania in Different Historical
Periods

The Period before the Divisions of Poland -the Jewish
autonomy and the Lithuanian national political system

Opening Remarks: Prof. Dov Levin
Prof. M. Jucas

Discussion

The Czarist Period - regions of nationalist Lithuania,
its centers of Jewish population and general history in that period.

Opening Remarks: Prof. Dov Levin
Prof. R. Miknys
Prof. Mordechai Altshuler
Dr. A. Kulakauskas

Discussion


Lithuania between Two World Wars.

Opening Remarks: Prof. Dov Levin
Prof. Ludas Truska

Discussion

Lithuania and the Jewish People on the Verge of World War II.

Opening Remarks: Prof. Dov Levin
Dr. S. Jegelevicius
Dr. Arunas Bubnys

Discussion



Tuesday, September 8, 1998

10:00 - 13:00 Historiography and the University Teaching of
History In Lithuania (professor >from Lithuanian university)

In Israel and Jewish universities Prof. Mordechai Altshuler

In a global perspective Prof. Israel Bartal

Some observations >from other countries

Prof..Aivars Stranga (Latvia)
Dr. Leonid Matzikh or
Dr.VictoriaMochalova (Russia)
Prof. Eduard Savicki (Belarus)


15:00 - 18:00 Comparative Elements between the Jewish and
National Histories in Lithuania and Neighboring Countries

Opening Remarks: Dr. Arunas Vysniauskas

Discussion


20:00 Extracurricular Cultural Evening (program to be
announced)


Wednesday, September 9, 1998

10:00 - 13:00 Integrating the Two Channels
Jewish History and Lithuanian History

Cultural, spiritual and socio-political perspectives
Opening Remarks: Prof. Mordechai Altshuler
Prof. Ludas Truska
Dr. V. Berenis

Discussion

Identification of common historical-geographical points
between Jewish and general channels of history in Lithuania through the ages and listing of relevant topics for teaching.

Opening Remarks: Prof. Israel Bartal
Prof. M. Jucas
Prof. E. Aleksandravicius
Dr. A. Kusmanska

Discussion



Conclusions and Closing Session

15:00 - 17:45 Practical and Didactic Applications

Curricular and didactic aspects of teaching contemporary
topics and earlier periods.

Group Discussion

Summary discussion and outlining of materials needed for
teaching in the university classroom.

Group Discussion

Practical suggestions for further steps in Lithuania and
neighboring countries

Open Discussion (including
observers >from neighboring countries)


17:45 Closing Session


PARTICIPANTS
LITHUANIA
Vilnius University:
Dr. A. Bumblauskas
Dr. A. Jakubcionis
Dr. S. Jegelevicius
Prof. M. Jucas
Dr. A. Kasperavicius
A. Pacevicius
Dr. A. Vysniauskas
Pedagogical University of Vilnius:
M. Kohrsas (Visiting faculty >from Germany)
V. Mariengolcas
B. Setkus
Prof. L. Truska
Vytautas Magnus University of Kaunas:
Prof. E. Aleksandravicius
Dr. V. Brandisauskas
Dr. A. Kulakauskas
Institute of Culture and Art:
Dr. V. Berenis
Lithuanian Historical Institute:
Dr. A. Bubnys
Dr. V. Jogela
Dr. R. Miknys
Lithuanian Jewish Community:
Ilja Lempertas
Dr. Izraelis Lempertas
ISRAEL
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem:
Prof. M. Altshuler
Prof. I. Bartal
Prof. D. Levin
BELARUS:
Belarus Governmental Committee for Archives:
Dr. E. Savicki
LATVIA:
Latvian Institute for International Affairs:
Prof. A. Stranga
RUSSIA
Moscow Center for University Teaching of Jewish
Civilization - Sefer:
Dr. L. Matzikh
Dr. V. Mochalova
Prof. R. Kaplanov



***********************************************************************


International Center for University Teaching of Jewish
Civilization
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

tel: 02-5619032, 02-5611142
POB 4234, Jerusalem 91042
fax:02-5665556
e-mail: msjewciv@...

***********************************************************************

Jewish History Seminar in Vilna - >from Prof. Dov Levin

Body:
I am pleased to send you the program of the forthcoming
seminar in Vilnius. Please note that there may still be some changes
in the program.

Three professors >from Israel will take part in the seminar:
Prof.Dov Levin, Prof. Mordechai Altshuler, and Prof. Israel Bartal.

Professors Levin and Altshuler will be travelling >from
Jerusalem on Sunday, September 6, via Copenhagen, and will arrive on
Sunday evening. They will be staying at the Vilnius University guesthouse
through the seminar and beyond. They are returning to Israel on
Monday, September 14.

Prof. Bartal will be arriving in Vilnius >from Moscow on
Monday evening, September 7 and will return to Moscow on Thursday
morning, September 10. He will also be staying at the university guesthouse.

Sincerely yours,

Dov


Workshop on Integration of Jewish History and National
History in University Teaching in Lithuania

Vilnius, September 7-9, 1998

(program as of 30/8/98)

Monday, September 7, 1998

10:00 - 11:00 Greetings, Welcoming Remarks etc. (Vilnius
University authorities and departments)

Integration of Jewish History and National History in
University Teaching in Lithuania:

Introduction to the program
Prof. Dov Levin
Dr. Arunas Vysniauskas


11:00 - 18:00 Jews in Lithuania in Different Historical
Periods

The Period before the Divisions of Poland -the Jewish
autonomy and the Lithuanian national political system

Opening Remarks: Prof. Dov Levin
Prof. M. Jucas

Discussion

The Czarist Period - regions of nationalist Lithuania,
its centers of Jewish population and general history in that period.

Opening Remarks: Prof. Dov Levin
Prof. R. Miknys
Prof. Mordechai Altshuler
Dr. A. Kulakauskas

Discussion


Lithuania between Two World Wars.

Opening Remarks: Prof. Dov Levin
Prof. Ludas Truska

Discussion

Lithuania and the Jewish People on the Verge of World War II.

Opening Remarks: Prof. Dov Levin
Dr. S. Jegelevicius
Dr. Arunas Bubnys

Discussion



Tuesday, September 8, 1998

10:00 - 13:00 Historiography and the University Teaching of
History In Lithuania (professor >from Lithuanian university)

In Israel and Jewish universities Prof. Mordechai Altshuler

In a global perspective Prof. Israel Bartal

Some observations >from other countries

Prof..Aivars Stranga (Latvia)
Dr. Leonid Matzikh or
Dr.VictoriaMochalova (Russia)
Prof. Eduard Savicki (Belarus)


15:00 - 18:00 Comparative Elements between the Jewish and
National Histories in Lithuania and Neighboring Countries

Opening Remarks: Dr. Arunas Vysniauskas

Discussion


20:00 Extracurricular Cultural Evening (program to be
announced)


Wednesday, September 9, 1998

10:00 - 13:00 Integrating the Two Channels
Jewish History and Lithuanian History

Cultural, spiritual and socio-political perspectives
Opening Remarks: Prof. Mordechai Altshuler
Prof. Ludas Truska
Dr. V. Berenis

Discussion

Identification of common historical-geographical points
between Jewish and general channels of history in Lithuania through the ages and listing of relevant topics for teaching.

Opening Remarks: Prof. Israel Bartal
Prof. M. Jucas
Prof. E. Aleksandravicius
Dr. A. Kusmanska

Discussion



Conclusions and Closing Session

15:00 - 17:45 Practical and Didactic Applications

Curricular and didactic aspects of teaching contemporary
topics and earlier periods.

Group Discussion

Summary discussion and outlining of materials needed for
teaching in the university classroom.

Group Discussion

Practical suggestions for further steps in Lithuania and
neighboring countries

Open Discussion (including
observers >from neighboring countries)


17:45 Closing Session


PARTICIPANTS
LITHUANIA
Vilnius University:
Dr. A. Bumblauskas
Dr. A. Jakubcionis
Dr. S. Jegelevicius
Prof. M. Jucas
Dr. A. Kasperavicius
A. Pacevicius
Dr. A. Vysniauskas
Pedagogical University of Vilnius:
M. Kohrsas (Visiting faculty >from Germany)
V. Mariengolcas
B. Setkus
Prof. L. Truska
Vytautas Magnus University of Kaunas:
Prof. E. Aleksandravicius
Dr. V. Brandisauskas
Dr. A. Kulakauskas
Institute of Culture and Art:
Dr. V. Berenis
Lithuanian Historical Institute:
Dr. A. Bubnys
Dr. V. Jogela
Dr. R. Miknys
Lithuanian Jewish Community:
Ilja Lempertas
Dr. Izraelis Lempertas
ISRAEL
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem:
Prof. M. Altshuler
Prof. I. Bartal
Prof. D. Levin
BELARUS:
Belarus Governmental Committee for Archives:
Dr. E. Savicki
LATVIA:
Latvian Institute for International Affairs:
Prof. A. Stranga
RUSSIA
Moscow Center for University Teaching of Jewish
Civilization - Sefer:
Dr. L. Matzikh
Dr. V. Mochalova
Prof. R. Kaplanov



***********************************************************************


International Center for University Teaching of Jewish
Civilization
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

tel: 02-5619032, 02-5611142
POB 4234, Jerusalem 91042
fax:02-5665556
e-mail: msjewciv@...

***********************************************************************

Dear LitvakSIG:
The Lithuanian government has appointed a commission to look into "war
crimes" >from WWII. Attached is the address of an article >from Reuters.
Hope you can use it!

<http://www.infoseek.com/Content?arn=a1665LBY570reulb-19980907&qt=Jewish&sv=
IS&lk=noframes&col=NX&kt=A&ak=news1486>

Marion H. Bernstein
San Antonio, TX

Dear LitvakSIG:
The Lithuanian government has appointed a commission to look into "war
crimes" >from WWII. Attached is the address of an article >from Reuters.
Hope you can use it!

<http://www.infoseek.com/Content?arn=a1665LBY570reulb-19980907&qt=Jewish&sv=
IS&lk=noframes&col=NX&kt=A&ak=news1486>

Marion H. Bernstein
San Antonio, TX