Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Yizkor Book Project, May 2012 #Austria-Czech

Lance Ackerfeld


So, another month has passed and, as usual, quite a lot to report with quite
a few new books started.

Now, >from time to time, I receive emails asking why such and such Yizkor
Book only has a small amount of translated material. As I explain, each
time, the translations in the Yizkor Book Project are online through the
help of a great deal of volunteers who have either supported the
translations financially or have carried out the translations themselves.
There are around 700 books in the project and, unfortunately, not all the
books have coordinators and many books are still waiting for volunteers to
step forward to take on their translation coordination. If you are
interested in knowing what is involved in coordinating such a project, I'm
here to answer any questions you may have in this regard.

As noted above and in most of my reports, volunteers are the essence of the
Yizkor Book Project and although I try to mention and thank as many as I can
each time, I don't always get to everyone to credit or thank them. For this
reason, it was decided to put up an online list of the all the volunteers
who have worked/are working on some aspect of the Yizkor Book Project so
that in a central location they would receive some sort of recognition for
their participation in the project. The list now appears at: and whilst the list already includes around
200 names, it is clear that this is still a drop in the ocean of the names
of volunteers involved in the project. With time, we hope to add in all the
names of people who have also been there to help out so don't be
disheartened if you don't yet appear there.

Another aspect of the Yizkor Book Project supported by volunteers is the
YBIP Project (Yizkor Books in Print) and I am pleased to inform you that
this project is definitely on a roll and last week Joel Alpert, YBIP
Coordinator, noted that 115 books had already been sold since the project's
instigation some months back. You may see what books are now available for
purchase at and also what books
are being prepared for publishing and also how it's possible to get involved
yourself in this initiative.

The Yizkor Book Project is also greatly assisted by donations to one of the
Translation Funds that have been set up to pay for the professional
translation of these books. This past month, a further such project was
added to the growing list - this time for Dumbraveni (Dombroven), Moldova
and if you are able to help financially to this or any other of the 58
funds, please go to
to see receive details of the translation projects are involved and their
proposal details.

As far as the May figures go, during this last month we have added these 8
new projects:

- Didymoteichon & Orestias, Greece (Birkenau: The Camp of Death)

- Hodmezovasarhely, Hungary (Hodmezovasarhely victims of fascism during the
Second World War)

- Leova, Moldova (A Town in Eastern Europe: Leova (Bessarabia))

- Lokachi, Ukraine (Lokatch (Poland) Memorial Book)

- Nagykallo, Hungary (The Tsadik of Kalov and His Community...)

- Ostrow Lubelski, Poland (Memorial-Book Ostrow-Lublesk)

- Skierniewice, Poland (The book of Skierniewice)

- Wojslawice, Poland (Yizkor Book in Memory of Voislavize)

Added in 4 new entries:

- Grebenau, Germany (Encyclopedia of Jewish Communities in Germany, Volume

- Ladyzhin, Ukraine (Encyclopedia of Jewish Communities in Romania, Volume

- Lauterbach, Germany (Encyclopedia of Jewish Communities in Germany, Volume

- Wojslawice, Poland (Encyclopedia of Jewish Communities in Poland, Volume

We have continued to update 20 of our existing projects:

- Briceni, Moldova (Brichany: its Jewry in the first half of our century)

- Csenger, Hungary (Memorial Book of the Martyrs of Csenger, Porcsalma and

- Debica, Poland (The Book of Dembitz) [Polish]

- Dieveniskes, Lithuania (Devenishki book; memorial book)

- Goniadz, Poland (Our hometown Goniondz)

- Gorodets, Belarus (Horodetz; history of a town, 1142-1942)

- Ivanava, Belarus (Yanow near Pinsk; memorial book)

- Jewish Music in Poland between the World Wars

- Karelichy, Belarus (Korelitz; the life and destruction of a Jewish

- Katowice, Poland (Katowice: the Rise and Decline of the Jewish community;
Memorial Book)

- Kovel, Ukraine (Kowel; Testimony and Memorial Book of Our Destroyed

- Kremenets, Ukraine (Memorial Book of Krzemieniec)

- Lyubcha, Belarus (Lubtch and Delatich; in memory of the Jewish community)

- Ostrolenka, Poland (Book of Kehilat Ostrolenka; Yizkor Book of the Jewish
Community of Ostrolenka)

- Ratno, Ukraine (Ratno; Story of a Destroyed Jewish Community)

- Rava-Ruska, Ukraine (Rawa Ruska Memorial Book)

- Serock, Poland (The book of Serock)

- Sokolka, Poland (Memorial Book of Sokolka)

- Suwalki, Poland (Memorial book of Suvalk)

- Tarnogrod, Poland (Book of Tarnogrod; in memory of the destroyed Jewish

Please remember that all this month's additions and updates have been
flagged at to make it easy
to find them.

All the best,
Lance Ackerfeld
Yizkor Book Project Manager

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Paris 2012 newsletter 11 #Austria-Czech

Congrès Paris 2012 Généaloj

JULY 15-18 2012
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Shortcut to using the IKG/FHC database #Austria-Czech


I'm not certain whether this has been noted on previous comments...
One can reduce the time taken to do searches in the new database by
first looking up the name of the ancestor one is searching for in . That will give you a numerative. Listings in the
IKG books within specific years are ordered by numeratives. One can
guess on first try to within a few pages of the desired entry.

Good luck all.

Art Spira
Researching: SPIRA of Trebic and Vienna
WERTHEIMER of Trebic, Misslitz, and Vienna
DUERRHEIM of Trebic and Vienna
MAX of Schaffa (Safov) and Vienna

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Searching Weinberger #Austria-Czech

Sandra Nutig


I am trying to find when my GGfather and my Gfather arrived. This is
what I have found. I hope someone can please help with this.

Port of Departure: Hamburg
Arrival date 29 Feb. 1884
Age 35
Birth year Abt: 1849
Ship Name: Bohemia

1900 Census
Birth date 1853
Immigrated 1883

Could these two Samuels be the same person based on the information?

Pressburg, Hungary
Port of departure: Bremen, Germany
Arrival date :15 May 1885
Age: 3
Birth year: abt 1882
Ship name: Hermann

1900 Census
Age: 18
Birth year: 1882
Birthplace: Hungary
Immigration year: 1883
Father: Samuel Weinberger

Could these Jacobs be the same person. My grandfather, Jacob told me
he came to the US when he was 3 years old.

Also, I cannot find when Samuel's wife arrived. Fannie Weinberger. It
looks like Jacob may have traveled with his grandmother and cousins.
He did have a cousin Morris who was a few years older. The older
woman is not know to me. Looks like Mali.

Thank you.

Sandra Sand Nutig

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Nisko #Austria-Czech


Several people have requested a copy of the article on Nisko , "Das
Schicksal des dritten Transports aus dem Protektorat nach Nisko" so I have
provided a link to my copy as a pdf on Dropbox.

I realize that it stops just at the topic of "The Third Transport".
I have
placed a request with Terez=EDn Initiative Institut (Institut Terezinska
iniciativy), institute@... , to see if they can get us an
online copy of the full article.
The article is in pdf format in German but it is possible to get a crude
translation through Google translate. I have been in touch with the author ,
who is currently involved with filming and won't be back at his office till
July, at which time I will have a chance to find out more about his
Rabbi Dr. Norbert Weinberg
email: norofra@...

Karmi Sheli-My Vineyard
The Courage of the Spirit:The story of Europe's Jewry in the 20 th Century
from family accounts and documents

Reasearching Family Records of WEINBERG( Dolyna/Ukraine,
Vienna/Austria,Frankfurt AM, Germany),ZARWANITZER ( Dolyna/Ukraine),IGER(
Lviv, Podwolochisk/Ukraine)GOTTDENKER ( Lviv, Bolekhiv/Ukraine).

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Litomerice archive online #Austria-Czech

E. Randol Schoenberg

Erika Kalkofen-Frahne of Dortmund, Germany alerted me to the website of
the State Archives in Litomerice Vital Records Search, . She says she has found
references to a number of converted Jewish families in the marriage
record books, especially for "Konfessionslos" (no religion), but also,
less frequently, in the Catholic and Protestant (Evangelisch) records.
For those of you researching in the Litomerice (North Bohemia) region,
you may with to comb through the online resources at this site.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Litomerice archive online #Austria-Czech

Bob Lenk

Thanks, Randy, for this news about the online records >from the
Litomerice archive.

If folks aren't aware, some records >from Litomerice archive are
available at the Mormon / Family History Library site. These include
the 1921 census (a civil census, including all religions):

and some vital records, including some Jewish records (a relatively
small number) >from the archives of Litomerice and (apparently) Zamrsk:

The places with Jewish records are:
Okres Louny: Dolni Rocov and Horni Rocov
Okres Most: Havran

I don't know if there are any Jewish records included in any of the
Catholic registers. I also don't know if there is any overlap with
what's on the archive's official site.

I have found most of what I expected to find in the census record. I
was not able to find any towns of interest to me in the vital records.

They also have some Jewish records >from the Opava and Trebon archives.
I haven't looked at those at all (not where any of my ancestors are from).

Bob Lenk
Greeley, Colorado, USA

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech My Geni projects #Austria-Czech

E. Randol Schoenberg

Besides the projects for Vienna,, and Prague,, I have
started setting up some smaller town projects on Geni for


I'll be setting up further projects for the other towns where my family lived. The goal is to collaborate with
other descendants and tie together all the families >from these towns into one connected tree.
With the newly available resources, it is possible.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Looking for Lazlo Grosz #Austria-Czech

Charles Mahler

Dear All,
A friend of mine is trying to find info about his wife's grandfather named
GROSZ Laszlo, >from the Nagy Alfoeld village Bucsa.
"After the second World War, and after his return >from forced labor in the
Ukraine (his mother and father survived Auschwitz), he was rejected by his
girlfriend, Balogh Rozsalia, with whom he had a male child, Laszlo Balogh,
the father of my wife. Mister Grosz left the region, not after he had
insisted that he wanted to recognize his son. In vain, for the Balogh family
further rejected his demands. He probably left the country for France,
Belgium or the USA. It is still a mystery where he continued his life.
This Laszlo Grosz was the steward at the estate of Eugene Fould-Springer (son of
Therese Ephrussi), for the Fould-Springer family owned estates in Bucsa and
the nearby village of Szerep (Nagy Alfoeld) and in (Hungarian) Slovakia".
Does any body has some info about this man?
Best regards
Charles Mahler Antwerp Belgium

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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Litomerice records online #Austria-Czech


Re: Litomerice Records Online

Has anyone been able to find a systematic filing method for the 1921
census records of Litomerice? There are several volumes, each with
hundreds of images, but each seems to have names listed at random.
Presumably they are arranged by address, but in the absence of that
information the records seem to be unusable.
Art Spira

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: WWI soldiers' graves #Austria-Czech


The site has moved to

Janice M. Sellers
Oakland, California

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:21 AM, IsraelP <IsraelP@...> wrote:
The WWI soldiers' graves site mentioned in The Galitzianer that came last
week - - doesn't seem to be valid.

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech KehilaLinks Project Report for May 2012 #Austria-Czech

Susana Leistner Bloch

We are pleased to welcome the following webpages to JewishGen KehilaLinks
We thank the owners and webmasters of these webpages for creating fitting
memorials to these Kehilot (Jewish Communities) and for providing a valuable
resource for future generations of their descendants.

Balta (Balte), Ukraine
Created by Ukraine SIG / Ron Doctor
Webmaster: Richard Baum

Boguslav (Bohuslav, Bohslov) , Ukraine
Created by Ukraine SIG / Ron Doctor
Webmaster: Richard Baum

Cherkasy (Cherkoss), Ukraine
Created by Ukraine SIG / Ron Doctor
Webmaster: Richard Baum

Kolodne (Darva, Kolodné), Ukraine (S-C)
Created by Marshall Katz

Verkhnedneprovsk ( Verchnedneprovsk), UKraine
Created by Joseph Bekinschtein

KehilaLinks webpages recently updated:

Novopotalka, Ukraine

Raducaneni, Romania

Skala-Podol'skaya (Skala) Ukraine (G)

Tovste (Tluste, Toist - 48°50'), Ukraine (G)

Zolkiewka (Zholkevka, Zhilkovke)

Some of our Kehila webpages were created by
people who are no longer able to maintain them.
We thank them for their past efforts and wish
them luck on their future endeavors.
The following webpages are "orphaned" and are available for adoption.

Borzna, Ukraine
Kolomea (Komomyja) (G)
Rozdol, Ukraine (G)

Good News!

Borisov, Belarus webpage was adopted by Dr. Leah Teicher

If you wish to create a KehilaLinks webpage or adopt an exiting "orphaned"
webpage please contact us at: < bloch@...>.

NEED TECHNICAL HELP CREATING A WEBPAGE?: We have a team of dedicated
volunteers who will help you create a webpage.

Susana Leistner Bloch, VP, KehilaLinks, JewishGen, Inc.
Barbara Ellman, KehilaLinks Technical Coordinator

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Czech Registers #Austria-Czech


In case anyone has not already done so, it is worthwhile paying close
attention to any birth registers that feature a column headed "Pathen",
indicating an individual sponsoring the new-born child. By doing so, I
was able to form a table of children for which my
great-great-grandfather Salomon Z Aufrichtig had put his name forward.
Coincidence or otherwise, it transpired that the mothers of most of
these children were Aufrichtig girls who, although I knew they had at
one stage shared the same address as Salomon, did not have any official
documentation to confirm them as siblings. I now believe that Salomon's
involvement in their children's welfare reinforces the likelihood of
kinship. Does anyone know if the role of "Pathen" was one normally
adopted by a relative?

I wonder, too, if anyone else has come across "odd" entries when
researching family members. I have thus far concentrated all my efforts
on Boskovice, since that is where my direct line is traced back to the
1700s. In all registers, there are lines in which a column entry has been
entered as ditto (") marks. I had assumed these to indicate that the
entry in this column was a repeat of the one directly above.

This worked fine, until re-checking the entry on g-g-grandfather
Salomon's daughter Vogele. At that stage I noted that in the next two
lines in the Father column, directly beneath Salomon's name, each had
the male parent listed as " ". I uttered OMG and stared at these two
lines in disbelief! The Boskovice registers also have a column to denote
if the child be legitimate or born out of wedlock. Sure enough, both
these children were entered as illegitimate. In case anyone is willing
to have a look at it, it is within the 1832-1848 Boskovice Birth
Register, image 22 (April 1842).

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Ronny Roberts, London & Bradenton, FL
(Moravia), WODAK (Moravia)

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Viewmate translation request #Austria-Czech


Hello to all:
I have posted a signature >from a Romanian birth record on Viewmate. I am
looking for an English translation of the Yiddish signature. Also, if anyone
has an ideas about the possible root meaning of the surname and a country
of origin affiliated with the surname I would be very interested in
learning. The signature is that of my Great Grandfather whom I know virtually
nothing about other than what is stated on this birth record of my Grandfather,
Solomon (Samuel Zeitler in the USA). The officials wrote the name of my GG
as, Filip Taitler on birth certificate. It states that he was a tailor
living on Poets Street in Bucharest, married to Miriam Joseph Grinberg. The
record is >from 1884. If anyone has any information on this family would you
please email me?
The Viewmate address is:

Thank you,
Manette S. Zeitler
Bristol, Indiana

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Litomerice 1921 census online #Austria-Czech


Art Spira asks how the census records are arranged. Yes Art the Bohemian
censuses were usually recorded according to address. Each residence is
accorded one page of records. So if you have an address its easy to find the
records of the family or families who lived at that address.
If you don't have an address then you have to look through all the records
to find the family you are searching for. It can take quite along time.
The other option is to write to the archive and ask them to find it for you.
The list of Czech archives can be found on the National Czech Archives
website. If you find the home page the brown "button" on the LHS with the
words "Ceska archivni spolecnost" (meaning Czech Society of Archivists) will
lead you with a click to the word Adresar also on the LHS and that means
address in English.
Click on that and you will find a list of Czech archives which you can then
open with another click. The Litomerice archive is found by clicking on the
link Statni oblastni archiv v Litomericich. There you will find the email address
for enquiries plus a postal address and even telephone numbers.
Good luck
Daniela Torsh

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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Czech Vital records #Austria-Czech


Ronny Roberts mentions that "Pathen" in the Vital records has proved a
useful column to discern kinship links. I always understood that
grandparents - mainly the men- would take on the role of being a witness to
a birth in the family. So yes it is a vital piece of information if it was
As for illegitimacy we know that if a male didn't have a Familiant number it
was forbidden for him to marry in the eyes of the State. A Jew could have a
Rabbi marry him but it wouldn't necessarily be recognised when the
Familianten laws were in place. They prevented legitimate marriages for many
years for the Jews. That is the most likely explanation for the so called
illegitimate births you are finding Ronny. The child would most likely be
registered under the mother's name until such time as the parents were able
to marry and once that happened the children could then be given the
father's name.
However the birth records would stand.
I'm delighted you are finding such good new material and hope that others
are as well.
Regards >from Sydney
Daniela Torsh

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Czech Vital records #Austria-Czech


Thank you Daniela Torsh for elaborating on the Familianten laws and the
Unehrlich births. I am, however, still puzzled by the fact that in four
instances where a birth has been marked as Unehrlich, ditto marks (") have been
entered in the Father column, these marks appearing directly beneath entries
registering children born to my Great-Great-Grandfather Salomon Z Aufrichtig
and his wife Julie [Jachet] Lokschan Aufrichtig. These ditto marks appear to
imply that Salomon was the father of the Unehrlich child.

Other checks I performed on ditto marks used in the Pathen column reveal
that they seem to be using them in the appropriate fashion - i.e. indicating
a repeat of the information in the line above. On that basis, do I now have
to consider the possibility that G-G-Grandad Salomon fathered 13 children
and not 9?

Ronny Roberts, London & Bradenton, FL
WODAK (Moravia)

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech IAJGS Paris Conference #Austria-Czech

E. Randol Schoenberg

It looks good for me being in Paris next month for this year's 32nd IAJGS
International Conference on Jewish Genealogy July 15-18 at the Hotel
Marriott Paris Rive Gauche in Paris, France. I hope to see many of you there.
For details and registration, please go to

Here's a reminder of the fabulous events we have scheduled:, thanks
once again to the tireless efforts of Vera Finberg:

Monday July 16
9:00am Julius Mueller: Etymology of Jewish surnames in Bohemia and
Moravia in 17th and 18th century
3:10pm Paul King: Rural census in Bohemia in 1724
4:00pm Thomas Fuerth: Researching 17th and 18th c. families in Bohemia

Tuesday July 17
10:30am Georg Gaugusch: Ennobled Austrian Jewish Families
2:00pm Mathilde Tagger: Virtual Reconstruction of a Destroyed Community
during the Holocaust - The Sephardic Community of Vienna, Austria

Wednesday, July 18
12:30pm AustriaCzech SIG lunch featuring Harold Chipman: Adolf and
Willibald Duschnitz - an exceptional family, masters of challenges in
triumph and tragedy
2:00pm AustriaCzech SIG meeting

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Undocumented marriages Svihov #Austria-Czech


Prague researcher Julius Muller studied my family records in Svihov for me years ago, before computerized
data sources were available. He learned that Daniel BLOCH was the saudek of four children of Sarah WEDELES.
There is no State marriage record of Daniel Bloch and Sarah Wedeles, but Daniel acknowledged his children in
religious terms, at least in some records. Listers more knowledgeable than me can perhaps explain what the
meaning of saudek is and where these types of records can be located today. This family emigrated to St.
Louis Missouri in 1848 where Daniel helped start B'nai El synagogue and where they lived as a married
couple with the mother and children taking the name Block. Daughter Veronica married Schwarzkopf and
then Berwin.

Dan Brockman
Barrington Illinois
Block, Wedeles, Berwin, Marx, Pickard, Schwarzkopf, Fischer

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech "Illegitimate" Children in Documents #Austria-Czech

Fritz Neubauer

Ronny wrote:

Thank you Daniela Torsh for elaborating on the Familianten laws and the
Unehrlich births. I am, however, still puzzled by the fact that in four
instances where a birth has been marked as Unehrlich, ditto marks (") have been
entered in the Father column, these marks appearing directly beneath entries
registering children born to my Great-Great-Grandfather Salomon Z Aufrichtig
and his wife Julie [Jachet] Lokschan Aufrichtig. These ditto marks appear to
imply that Salomon was the father of the Unehrlich child.
Dear Ronny,

please note that the German term for "illegitimate" (child) is UNEHELICH
(two e's there, no r), not "unehrlich" which means "dishonest" in German ...

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany