1848 Hungarian Census source #hungary


Risa Heywood
 

I found an 1848 Hungarian census index record in the Hungarian SIG database
for which I would like to get a copy of the original record. These are the
index records for Abaúj-Torna and the film # was 48389. This isn't an FHL
film # so I'm guessing it's >from the Hungarian National Archives. But, I
don't see anything mentioned about Abaúj-Torna in the database notes. The
SIG Discussion Group Archive database wasn't available today, so I couldn't
see if this question has already been asked.

What is the source of these Abaúj-Torna and does anyone know how I might get
a copy of the original records? I'm specifically looking for Nagybodolló,
Abaúj-Torna, household 7, Farkas Guttman.

Thanks!

Risa Daitzman Heywood
Denver, Colorado


HungarianRoots
 

Risa,

Abauj-Torna 1848 census is at the State Archives in Kosice, Slovakia. I
think Peter Absolon took pictures of the actual pages.
I also have some of them that I took myself many years ago, but Bodollo is
not among them. However, I visited Bodollo this summer and have seen the
cemetery as well.

Regards,
Karesz Vandor
genealogist/historian/private tour guide
Hungarian Roots
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Aba=FAj-Torna, household 7, Farkas Guttman.

Thanks!

Risa Daitzman Heywood
Denver, Colorado


dtolman@...
 

Hello Risa,
were you ever able to find any information on this? I'm also curious to find out more about film # 48389 in the Hungarian Archives. Is it digitized somewhere? Or only accessible at the archives themselves? 
What is the status of the indexing? I noticed that some municipalities in Abaúj-Torna are found in the jewish gen search index, but others are not (such as the village of Selyeb).

regards
Daniel Eig


m_tobiasiewicz@...
 

For those not familiar with this census: 
Census of the Jews in Hungary, 1848. For the cities: Debrecen, Eperjes, Gyöngyös, Győr, Miskolc, Modor, Nagyszombat, Pécs, Sopron, Szakolcza, Szentgyörgy, Ujvidék, Temesvár, Trencsén, Zombor. For the counties: Baranya, Békés, Bihar, Csanád, Csongrád, Esztergom, Fejér, Győr, Hajdu, Komárom, Szolnok, Krassó, Kraszna, Máramaros, Moson, Szabolcs, Tolna, Trencsén, Turócz, Ung, Vas, Veszprém, Zala. Izraeliták Nésora is a list of Hebrew names. Title on film is musteraufnahmen.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/352982?availability=Family%20History%20Library

You can find detailed explanation of all Hungarian census records here: 
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Hungary_Census

Last time I looked, the images are only available at a Family History Center, most of which are still closed.
Hope all this helps!
Maryellen

The 1848 Hungarian Jewish Census (The Census) was known by its Latin name, "Conscriptio Judaerum. 1848".  It is a survey of Jews in Hungary compiled after the failed Hungarian 1848 Revolution against Austria in the Spring of that year.  Though most of it was completed in 1848, in some counties (megye) it spilled over into 1849.  Most of the counties followed the same pattern and were supposed to collect the same data.  However, as no forms were supplied the data was collected in some cases on printed forms, but in most cases on plain paper with each recorder following his own locally created hand drawn form or pattern.

The “Census” covered all the counties of Greater Hungary as we refer to the territories under the Hungarian Crown prior to 1918, which included, among others, parts of Slovakia, Croatia, Ukraine and Romania.

Unfortunately, we do not have access to the entire Census.  The main available source at the present time consists of data that was made available to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), and was microfilmed in 1970, on seven microfilms.  These microfilms are listed in the Family History Catalog (FHLC) of the LDS.  They may be found by Subject ("Jews - Hungary") then ("Conscriptio Judaerum"), by Author ("Magyarország. Belügyminisztérium") then ("Conscriptio Judaerum").
source: https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/hungary/census1848.htm

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m_tobiasiewicz@...
family from: Bielsko-Biala powiat Poland
Gorlice powiat Poland
Lviv Oblast Ukraine


David Oseas
 

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 10:37 AM, <m_tobiasiewicz@...> wrote:
Last time I looked, the images are only available at a Family History Center, most of which are still closed.
Although the FS catalog displays a lock icon next to these image collections, if you go ahead & click on an icon it will take you to the images, even from home.

Regards,
David Oseas


Odeda Zlotnick
 

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