2x GGF living in Berdichev was listed in 1875 Kiev census record, but I dont know how to see who else was #records #ukraine

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Hi Wendy & the group.

There are *many* more records on Wikipedia than what is shown on the TKF site! And in fact, for this town there are a lot of census records, you have a lot to work with.

Long story short, look at the Kyiv province section of the Wikipedia "shtetl records" page, which refer to the DAKO (Kyiv region archives) fonds 12-3, 280-2, 280-164, 280-201, 384-4, as well as the DAZHO (Zhitomir region archives) fond 694-1.

(Note that many of these have been indexed and/or discussed also on the J Roots Forum site, an invaluable resource but which is mostly hidden for folks who don't read Ukrainian.)

Below I've listed more detailed info about census records for the city of Berdichev, with notes on whether name lists are available so you can decide what to look at first. Good luck!

Juliana Berland


A large number of earlier Berdichev census records are on the page for DAKO fond 280, opus 2: https://uk.wikisource.org/wiki/Архів:ДАКО/280/2

See for instance:

Case 435 (1834), with name lists @ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ГАКО_Бердичев_1834_купцы_и_цеховые.pdf, @ https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=104592#p104592 (& following posts), and @ https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=153465#p153465.

Cases 778, 779 (1850), lists @ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ГАКО_280_778_Бердичев_1850.pdf and @ https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=153465&sid=7088fbae1e2bee073f7c9f7a24001e71#p153465.

Case 1056 is an "additional" list from 1851.

Case 1183 for 1855, 1858, 1861-62 has an even better name listing (shows frames instead of just names) @ https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=282796#p282796. Berdichev appears @ 4, 12, 17, 28, 31, 35, 45, 51, 55, 57, 61, and 63 (per https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=153465#p153465).

Cases 1193, 1195 (1858), name lists @ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ГАКО_280_1193_1858_купцы_Бердичева.pdf, and @ https://j-roots.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=108367&sid=15234d37e5f5f28f95e304a94514a622#p108367

Case 1200 is mixed, and some names from Berdichev 1858 are listed @ https://j-roots.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=104564&sid=cc9bd0b6d4c8a7c1dd69996be9636170#p104564

Case 1534, 1535, 1536 are mixed cities / years 1855-1861. For case 1535, Berdichev is @ 25, 120, 146, and 170 (per https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=153465#p153465)

Case 1562 is maybe 1862-1864, and Berdichev is @ 8, 315, 341, and 353 (per https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=153465#p153465)

Note that there are also other census files listed/linked on that DAKO 280-2 page that cover outside of the city of Berdichev, and which may or may not contain Jewish files.


The Berdichev district 1897 census files are found in DAKO fond 384, opus 4:
These have indices on Wikipedia and in the JRF posts. See in particular cases 384-4-489, also 384-4-167.


Most of the above files are also listed on the main wiki page for Jewish records covering the Kyiv province:

On that page you will also find these additional Berdichev census records:
DAKO 12-3-660 (1875)
, with name lists @ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ГАКО_12_3_660_Бердичев_1875.pdf, and @ https://j-roots.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=149828&sid=3eb0aa0882b4e2536e1a820989966953#p149828
DAKO 280-164-782 (1846-1849)
DAKO 280-164-1130 (1862)
, with index on p.8 per https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=227553#p227553
DAKO 280-164-1135 (1862), index on p.7 per https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=227553#p227553
DAKO 280-164-2527 (1874 /
1874-79?), Berdichev @ 9, 18, 25, 29, 56, 343,& 363 per https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=227553#p227553
DAKO 280-201-612 (1861)
, index @ https://forum.j-roots.info/viewtopic.php?p=282799#p282799
DAZHO 694-1-1, 694-1-2 (1847)

On 07/11/2022 23:38, Wendy Kalman wrote:

I am looking for suggestions or help regarding the 1875 census.

According to the Lipes Database, my great great grandfather Srul-Itzko Abramovich Gershberg was 14 y.o. in the 1875 census, In Berdichev, Kiev district.  [snip]

So…I found a list of Ukranian records from Alex Krakovsky at https://www.tkfgen.org/open_sources_ak_p09.html and  downloaded the PDF for 1875 census in Kiev, scrolled through almost 400 pages, found what I thought was a possible match (I used translate and Steve Morse tools to show me what the Cyrillic script should look like). But what I found (listed twice on p 245 & 277 of the PDF) wasn’t the names I was loooking for according to a Russian speaker I know.


So...would anyone have any other suggestion of how to find the record which has to exist? Would any of the other files listed on that tkgen page be worth checking? How else can I find the original record for 14 y.o. Srul-Itsko Gershberg in Berdichev? Thank you!

Wendy Kalman
Acworth, GA