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JewishGen.org Discussion Group - Digest #1 #Help

Eva Lawrence
 

I was able to change the size of the messages in the Digest by right-clicking and choosing Zoom. The Digest became much easier to read. Also, my Digest arrives with blue base and header - perhaps the green one isn't due to Jewishgen, but to your email programme..
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Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.

judieson@...
 

I find the formatting for this new type of posting to be distracting and uncoordinated.  I'm sorry to say so, because I've been an ardent reader since inception of the former discussion groups...and that's a lot of years and viewing. My method was to scan down the 'table of contents', and pay attention to subject matter. Then, I'd scroll through the various postings, primarily looking for words/content of interest such as surnames and communities which I am personally interested in.  The format was even, well spaced and subject pertaining - and any time I spent on it was deliberate.  It was truly 'a joy' to be able to go online and communicate internationally - after so many years of searching in other manners (since circa 1972).


With the new format, I find the colorings to be distracting, the spacing to be awkward, the icons irritating....and in general, the entire thing is difficult to scroll through systematically.  Disorder and poor spacing are very irritating to me, personally.

I completely prefer the former systems and postings, being able to zero in on my personal choices, and to briefly skim irrelevant posts to my family searches.  There was order and conformity to it all...and I miss that!

As an active genealogist,  small group discussion presenter locally, and 'keeper' of a very large email address book of interested individuals, I am sorry that I can no longer forward individual preference postings by geographic area to my mailing lists.  People really appreciated and commented on being able to 'zero in' on Hungarian or Polish or ------ readings, and now it is scattered and disorienting.

Thank you for the efforts of the site originators, but the new format 'does nothing for me'.
Judie Cynkus Rice
JGSLA former area coordinator for So.Bay/LongBeach/near OC communities

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zevr1135

eyedoc11@...
 

As a retired optometrist research has shown that black on white, i.e., greater contrast, improves visualization of text.  Additionally, as we age a larger font would also make it easier to read the text.
Murray S. Sperber, O. D.
Los Angeles, CA

Dominique Anderson
 

Given the large number of people who have complained about the new system  without giving specific feedback, I’d like to say this: yes there are glitches, but any new large project such as this one can be expected to have several updates before it operates the ways it was conceived. And in my opinion, it is doing very well considering its very recent launch. Kudos to the people who are putting it together! 🥇It is an enormous task and you are doing an amazing job. 

To the people who are dissatisfied, I’d like to say: please be patient and please do your part: send SPECIFIC feedback, give details of what is not working the way it it supposed to without complaining. Be part of the quality control team that brings the project to completion. Yes you can greatly contribute, even if you know zip about computers! 

This organization is made entirely of people who know what they’re doing, they’ve demonstrated it again and again. Don’t doubt them, don’t be critical, don’t add to the aggravation. When you run into one of the infamous glitches, grind your teeth and/or swear if you have to (I do!), get yourself a cup of your favorite coffee and/or a cookie, send your feedback to this team of magicians and sit tight. They will deliver the goods! In the meantime, let’s give them a hand!! 👏👏👏

Dominique Anderson

Ina Getzoff
 

I am torn between liking the new format and wanting to go back to the old format but am willing to wait and see how this will work out. As Nicole has pointed out-more members seem to like the new format over the old.

Ina Getzoff
Delray Beach, Fla.

petercullman
 

I can’t say that I agree with most of these recent complaints - with the exception of the graphic layout (top and bottom of each digest). An ugly, sickly looking green is not the colour we usually associate with anything pertaining to Jewish matters: a light blue is visually the colour that makes sense for us, pleasing not only to the eye - just saying...

Peter Simonstein Cullman
Toronto

fred.feldman@...
 

Very hard to understand.  Will need to try for a while to see if it was worth it.  Role out not adequate.  Old system was easy and adequate.

Deborah Blankenberg
 

As there have been so many comments expressing dissatisfaction with the new discussion group platform, I feel I must add my voice to the other side. I think the changes are very good and long overdue. There may be some fine-tuning yet to be done, but overall, I'm quite pleased. 

Deborah Blankenberg

Robert Spoont
 

I agree with Joan, too many digests!

Barbara Mannlein
 

You agree with what?

Avraham… this is what I meant yesterday..   People respond, but in many cases the message they are responding to does not appear…       


Barbara Mannlein
Tucson

On Oct 13, 2019, at 1:15 PM, sharon yampell <genealogicalgenie@...> wrote:

I agree
 
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Werner Hirsch
 

I'm sure a lot of work went into redesigning this discussion group, but I agree with Leslie.  As things are now, I'd be happy to see the old layout once again.

Werner HIRSCH
New Haven, CT USA

nichey46@...
 

Although I was somewhat taken aback initially by the new Discussion Group format, there are clearly a number of improvements over the old format.

My favourites:
Emails sent from my gmail address (which defaults to formatted text) will no longer be returned requesting "text only".
A few clicks allow us to visualise a full thread of discussions. Pure bliss. An immense improvement over the old system. See Avraham Groll's message in this thread, Digest #8, message 2d, 12 Oct 2019 23:21:39. 

You might need to adapt Avraham's instructions to your configuration. I find in Thunderbird clicking on "reply to group" produces a blank page, but "View/reply online" leads to an online form; scrolling down will take you to "View all nn messages in topic".

We (members) hope SIGs will be adapted in the near future. Reassurance from JewishGen on the matter would be welcome. Also availability of discussion group archive messages in the JGen search engine. These archives have been unavailable for nearly a full year.

I am happy to see that messages of approval of the new platform are gently outnumbering disapproval, and trust genners will adapt wih mutual help.

Nicole Heymans
near Brussels, Belgium

Karen Schwartz
 

I agree with the thoughtful comments and suggestions of those who have indicated that this new format is cumbersome and awkward. Additionally, it wastes time, is unclear
and is quite user un-friendly. Some of us belong to more than one group and previously, prior to opening the email, one could easily see which group was sending the email.
Now, that is no longer visible.

Perhaps you had to make some updates but if they provide any benefit, it would seem that it accrues to the organization and not the users.

Please reconsider. It’s not that those who are complaining are unwilling to have any changes - it’s that these changes are burdensome and inefficient.

Thank you.

Maurine McLellan
 

The new functions are great, but there are glitches that need to be resolved. Mitch said he sees the original message above replies, but I am not getting those. (The original message to which I am replying also did not show when I clicked on “Reply to group”)
Also, instead of one digest/day, I am getting multiple digests (numbered in sequence). So far today, I have received four digests only minutes apart. Some of the messages are repeats of what was in previous digests.
Hopefully, these issues can be worked out and we can get back to focusing on genealogy.

Maurine McLellan

Sophia Shore
 

I was not able to post on the old forum because i did not know how to use the text program it required. If i can remember what i was trying to post, i will repost. Looking forward o using this site

Joan Edelstein
 

First, I’m very pleased with the digest format, thank you!

However, I’m also getting numerous digests each day. Having read the posts, I understand the digest should have up to 12 messages, though I’m not sure why it’s limited to 12 (I get digests in other groups that have over 20 messages). I would be fine with 12, knowing that’s the max. Unfortunately, so far today I’ve received four digests; one with 7 messages, two with 9 messages, and one with 10 messages. I think that’s probably on the sender end. It would be very helpful to have the maximum number of messages in each digest, which I expect will be shorter once the glitches are ironed out. It would also be helpful to increase the number of messages in the digest, as the reason we subscribe to digest is not to get so many emails.

Best,
Joan

rhodesia@...
 

I like the new format - it is easy to read and very clear. Not sure why so many people are having problems. 

Ed

Sam Eneman
 

Another option for receiving messages is the Full Featured Digest: 12 messages are grouped into one email which is easy to follow and reply to.

The email options are available under Subscription on the group's web version.

Sam Eneman
Charlotte NC

Deborah Scheimer
 

I'm also happy with the new version of the discussion group. I think it has a very clean interface.  I use Google Chrome. Great Job,  team!

- Deb Scheimer 

sharon yampell
 

I agree

 

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