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Abby
 

In Lyon, France, the Museum of the Resistance, has huge book listing the 71,000+ Jews deported from Lyon in
World War II.  I found 5 of my Pariser family that I had no idea about before this. 
Are there other French cities with similar books listing the Jews, the "Juifs," deported to the camps?
Abby Pariser, Huntington, NY, USA

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

Abby Pariser asked :

  In Lyon, France, the Museum of the Resistance, has huge book listing the 71,000+ Jews deported from Lyon in World War II.  I found 5 of my Pariser family that I had no idea about before this. 

  Are there other French cities with similar books listing the Jews, the "Juifs," deported to the camps?

 

There were about 6,000 Jews deported from Lyon and its prefectoral area during World War II, not 71,000. Altogether, from the entire France were deported around 76,000 Jews, and, counting those who died in internment camps in France and those who were executed in France, this amounts to around 79,000 persons with about 3950 survivors in 1945.

 

Regarding the specific question, a Memorial Book to the Jews deported from France was first published in 1978 by Serge Klarsfeld. The latest printed version of this Memorial is from 2012. Since then, I maintain a free, searchable version of this Memorial online, at  https://stevemorse.org/france   including corrections and additions. With this tool, it is possible to get the lists of the deportees who were born in a specific town or region, or those whose last address was in a specific town or departement, those who were sent to a given internment camp in France on their way to the concentration and extermination camps, or any combination between these criteria.

 

Regarding Lyon, a Memorial to these Jews deported from Lyon and around is about to be erected at one of the Jewish cemeteries of Lyon.

 

Jean-Pierre Stroweis

Jerusalem

Bernard FLAM
 

Hi from Paris,
There is often a feeling by foreign people, specially American, that Shoah is forgotten in France and not many places are dedicated to memory and researches.
This feeling could have been true till 70's and also because even now, most our web sites aren't translated in English, nobody is perfect.
But France is able to face its history and concerning French Jews,  a real memory work has been well engaged for decades by numerous associations, institutions and private searchers as I am.
To Jean-Pierre Stroweis's answer, I wish to add :
  • Memorial de la Shoah in Paris is totally comparable to USHMM : a memorial, a museum, a documentation center (created in 1943, even before war's end) and a web site. http://ressources.memorialdelashoah.org/
  • deportees' list has been made by Serge Klarsfeld from nazis convoys lists established directly at deportation center as Drancy : his "memorial book", as "Shoah" movie by Claude Lanzman, are masterpieces for humanity memory of Shoah. 
  • you can search this list directly on Memorial de la Shoah web site, with an advantage to Steve Morse's site : you will find pictures and documents which could be added to each deportee's file by family members :http://ressources.memorialdelashoah.org/rechav_pers.php
  • Serge Klarsfeld compiled also  "Memorial des enfants ", "Children' memorial deported from France" with a page for each of 11.4000 children, including name and picture.
  • as I said, a lot of official / non official institutions / associations have some archives concerning Jews and Shoah in France and you must search one by one : Jean-Pierre Stroweis made this list in English, thank you Jean-Pierre ! https://genealogy.org.il/holocaust-france-resource-guide/
  • Among searchers, we know there are more archives which surely are to be investigated in each "department" archives, department being our territory division since French Revolution, i.e. 95 departments and so 95 archives in continental France...
  • If you know that your ancestors had obtained French nationality, their application file can be copied at French National Archives : between 20 and 40 pages of documents where they told a lot about their family and their life since they left the "old country".
As you can read, this is not because you don't hear or read often from us that we don't fulfill our duty of memory.

khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives and history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring of France (Workmen Circle)
Jewish genealogy detective of Polish roots

geoffrey
 

Thank you for this information. For those of us who do not speak French can these search pages be translated to English ?
Regards
Geoff Ackerman
Melbourne
Australia

jbonline1111@...
 

The Steve Morse pages are in English. 

Dominique Anderson
 

Thank you for your comments. I totally agree with you that too few people realize what is available and are very quick to jump to conclusions.
And yes, le Mémorial de la Shoah is impressive and... chilling!
May I add that the Journal Officiel published the list of the people who were deported from France. It is available online.
Dominique Rozenberg Anderson

jbonline1111@...
 

People deported from other countries to France are also listed in the https://stevemorse.org/france pages.  I found the parents of a friend who survived the Shoah.  They were from Germany, but were interned in France at Gurs.

Ellen
 

This is a great list of resources.  Links can also be found at https://www.jewishgen.org/French/links.htm.

Jean Warwick
 

you can search the Memorial de la Shoah web site in English, they have an English version of the website, here is the url:  
http://www.memorialdelashoah.org/en

At the top of the Memorial de la Shoah home page, there is the word "Drancy," (which is a link to info about the Drancy Camp, which was on the outskirts of Paris)
and next to that are the letters "EN" these will take you to the English language version of the website

Regards
Jean Warwick
Coventry, England, UK

Bernard FLAM
 

Hi from Paris,
Jean, you're right for the first pages of "Memorial de la Shoah" web site but when you "search a person" (deportee, resistant, etc.) it's only in French.
As I am often at Memorial (we organize commemorations and the yearly "Forum of Shoah's generations"), I will transfer to President Fredj the previous post of Geoff Ackerman from Melbourne in order to have "search pages" translated in English.
khavershaft
Bernard