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UTITZ or OTITZ family from Votice and Prague #austria-czech

David Glasner <daviditi@...>
 

I searc UTITZ or OTITZ >from Votice and Prague.
My mothers family UTITZ:
Abraham b. prague d. Prague 1796
His son Isack Lob b.1765 d. 1806
His son Abraham b. 1800 d.1873
his son Heinrich b. 1850 d. 1941 KZ
His Daughter - Julia - was my grandmother !!

All lived in Prague
Origin of family Nathan Ben Simon b. 1610 d. 1678 in Votice.

Please mail for any info you know or asking for.

Thanks
David Glasner
Kfar Ruppin
Israel 10850

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

David Glasner [Israel] asks about his maternal UTITZ
or OTITZ families >from Prague and originally from
Votice [Wottitz], Berouner Kreis. David writes that
the first established forefather of the family is
Nathan ben Simon b. 1610 d. 1678 in Votice. There
appears to be a gap between Nathan and the next-listed
descendant:

Abraham born Prague d. Prague 1796
His son Isack Lob b.1765 d. 1806
His son Abraham b. 1800 d.1873
His son Heinrich b. 1850 d. 1941 KZ
His daughter - Julia - {David's grandmother}.

Having last night returned >from two hectic weeks in
Vienna, my contribution has not been researched in
depth. I can confirm that in the 1793 census of
Bohemia there is not one single UTITZ or OTITZ listed
outside Prague. We will have to wait for the Prague
census before looking into these families in detail.
They may have been named WOTTITZ, like my own family,
before the name changed to UTITZ. In that case, there
would be a number of possible leads in the 1793
census.

Also without more detailed research I cannot confirm
the snippet of information, I have stored in my
subconscious that there was a connection between the
PAULI and the UTITZ families.

Wolfgang PAULI, a Nobel prize winner in quantum
physics was born in Vienna to Wolfgang JOSEPH and his
wife Berta Camilla SCHUTZ. Father Wolfgang trained in
Prague as a doctor and practiced in Vienna, but in
1898 he changed his name to Wolfgang Joseph PAULI and
subsequently converted to catholicism, which he
subsequently renounced. The famous scientist Ernst
MACH inspired Wolfgang JOSEPH and when his son was
born on 25 April 1900 he was named Wolfgang Ernst
PAULI. He died on 15.12.1958 in Zurich - see:

http://tinyurl.com/76wcg
and http://tinyurl.com/8pydq

Then there is Emil Utitz [27.05 1883 Prague - 2. 11.
1956 Jena], a survivor of Theresienstadt, who will
always be remembered not only for his contributions to
philosophy but for saving some of Viktor ULLMANN's
musical score for posterity to enjoy. Emil was the son
of a Prague leather manufacturer. For a photograph and
account in Czech see:

http://www.phil.muni.cz/fil/scf/komplet/utitz.html
http://sharat.co.il/lel/terezin/music.html

I remembered a posting on our SIG about Emil, so I
will refer David to Lisa Fabietti's message on 3 Mar
2003 re looking for the descendants of Emil and
Ottilie UTITZ. Among his heirs is a Vitezslav ABELES.

We can find three UTITZ buried in Vienna and there may
be a link with the above family:

Zentralfriedhof Tor I 51 2 87
UTITZ Emilie aged 81 buried 12.01.1927
UTITZ Isak Löb Dr. aged 63 buried 15.06.1903

Wahring Friedhof: Gp 19 Grave 323
UTITZ Ida aged 24, 16.02.1849 - 11.07.1873

Finally sadly, one alway has to check Yad Vashem where
there are quite a few UTITZ victims and some with
testimony, including one in Hebrew >from Ellen GLASNER
for Jula BERGER, born 1884, the wife of Arthur BERGER
of Prague. Julie was the daughter of Heinrich and Anna
UTITZ - so I assume this is David's grandmother,
listed above and and Ellen is David's mother? I have
not identified Heinrich on Yad vashem but David has
also indicated that he was a holocaust victim, see:

http://names.yadvashem.org

Celia Male [U.K.]

Wolf-Erich Eckstein <w.eckstein@...>
 

Most information about this family you will find in books (in german: Nathan
ben Simon und seine Kinder, dtv, Muenchen 1996) by Gerda HOFFER nee
POLLATSCHEK, granddaughter of Rudolf LION and Emilie UTITZ - she lives in
Yerusalem - it's her family and her tree has also David GLASNER. Also the
famous Wolf PAULI, son of Jakob PASCHELES and Helene nee UTITZ.
Heinrich UTITZ and Anna LEVY's children:
Alfred, son Eric
Jakob, wife Doris ENGLAENDER
Julia, husband Arthur BERGER, children: Traute marr. Franz KLEIN, Ellen
marr. Mordechai GLASNER

Wolf-Erich Eckstein
Vienna/AUSTRIA

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Glasner" <daviditi@...>

I searc UTITZ or OTITZ >from Votice and Prague.
My mothers family UTITZ:
Abraham b. prague d. Prague 1796
His son Isack Lob b.1765 d. 1806
His son Abraham b. 1800 d.1873
his son Heinrich b. 1850 d. 1941 KZ
His Daughter - Julia - was my grandmother !!

All lived in Prague
Origin of family Nathan Ben Simon b. 1610 d. 1678 in Votice.

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

With reference to David Glasner's original query: thank you, Wolf-Erich for
your interesting reply and reference to this book on the UTITZ family, which
I have not seen. I think your mail and mine [which, I confess that I produced
mainly >from general knowledge and internet sources] compliment each other well,
but inevitably lead to a number of follow-up questions:

1. Is there a link in the book with the early Nathan ben Simon who died in
Votice/Wottitz in 1678 and the next-listed descendant in David's posting?

Abraham born Prague d. Prague 1796.

If so, we might recognise the family in the 1793 census of Bohemia, perhaps
named Wottitz? Or is there a big nameless gap of ca 120 years to Abraham?

Would Nathan Wottitz of Neuhaus in 1793, perhaps be related? I am familiar
with him, his marriage to Judith LEIDESDORF >from Pressburg and his move to
Vienna. The famous operetta composer Oscar/Oskar STRAUS belonged to this
family as did the IKG leader in the early years of the 20th century, Dr Alfred
STERN: look for STERN in http://tinyurl.com/97sr2

2. You say that Emilie UTITZ married Rudolf LION. Here is their grave in Vienna:

Zentralfriedhof Gate 1 Group 8 Row 41 Grave 20a
Lion Emilie aged 71 09.01.1931
Lion Rudolf aged 62 04.03.1920

But who are these UTITZ buried in the ZF Vienna and in Wahring? Is Emilie
LION perhaps a daughter of Dr Isak Lob? And Ida, in Wahring, who is she?

Zentralfriedhof Tor I 51 2 87
UTITZ Emilie aged 81 buried 12.01.1927
UTITZ Isak Lob Dr. aged 63 buried 15.06.1903

Wahring Friedhof: Gp 19 Grave 323
UTITZ Ida aged 24, 16.02.1849 - 11.07.1873

Is it a coincidence that we have a Dr Isak Lob UTITZ dying in Vienna in
1903 and 100 years earlier in Prague in 1806?

3. Finally, you confirm that Helene UTITZ is the paternal grandmother of
Physics Nobel prize winner Wolfgang Ernst PAULI {whose strange family name
we now learn derives >from the *very Bohemian* PASCHELES}. Is it easy to
link her to the families we have discussed?

4. It would be nice to hear >from Lisa Fabietti as to whether she ever had
a follow-up on her early posting on this family re the heirs of the Emil
and Ottilie UTITZ.

Celia Male [U.K.]