On some of the entries for the Austrian DOEW database of Holocaust victims
the place of death is given as Landesgericht, Wien. The literal translation
is District Court, Vienna. Does this mean that the victims were sentenced to
death at that court, or the death notified by the court or murdered there.
I would appreciate information regarding this.

Charlie Roberts (London, England)

Researching AUFRICHTIG, ASCHENBERGER, WODAK, GERSTL, LOCKSCHAN,
DRAHOS-FLISSIG, FRANKEL/FRANKL, HOLZER, HUSSERL, KLEIN, KRAKAUER, KUTHAN,
KURZER, SOBOTKA, STEIN, WAS/WASS, WIEGE, WIPPERICH in Boskowitz/Boskowice,
Czechoslovakia, Vienna.

Charlie Roberts writes: "On some of the entries for
the Austrian DOEW database of Holocaust victims the
place of death is given as Landesgericht, Wien. The
literal translation is District Court, Vienna. Does
this mean that the victims were sentenced to death at
that court, or the death notified by the court or
murdered there? I would appreciate information
regarding this."

If you look carefully on Letter to the Stars:

http://www.lettertothestars.at

you will see that the 17 victims lived at different
addresses on the Landesgerichtsstrasse, Vienna VIII.

ie this is a *street name*, not a court.

One or more may have been Sammel-adressen [collective
homes prior to deportation].

Celia Male [U.K.]

Celia Male wrote:

ie this is a *street name*, not a court.

She's wrong. As Charlie wrote it is not there address but there place of
death. There are at least 18 people listed as Jewish Holocaust victims
who died there, see one of them:
http://www.doew.org/php/gestapo/index.php?c=detail&l=de&id=6493

I can't decide if they died or were murdered.

Wolf-Erich Eckstein
Vienna/AUSTRIA
http://members.chello.at/eckstein_we/Unsere_Familien1.htm

The confusion here arises because there was a:

1. Vienna *street* named Landesgerichtsstr. where one
can find 19 holocaust victims who were deported to
their deaths to: *Riga, Theresienstadt, Dachau
Litzmannstadt and Modliboryzce from
Landesgerichtsstr nos 18/11, 12/7/; 20/7; 20, 18.

2. A district court called Landesgericht, Wien
Wolf-Erich Eckstein told us there are at least 18
people listed as Jewish holocaust victims who died
there. He did not know the cause of death.

Firstly, the street: there are 17 Jewish deportation
victims listed on "Letter to the Stars":

http://www.lettertothestars.at/

Just enter: Landesgericht or Landesgerichtsstr [sic]
into "adress" [sic] slot. These victims were all
deported to their deaths [see footnote] >from one or
more houses in the Landesgerichtsstr. I have checked
each one. These 17 victims are ***not the same*** as
the ones who died at the Landesgericht.

If you enter all the 17 names on the list into "Nicht
mehr Anonym" on Doew http://www.doew.at/ they do not
appear - ie they were not on the Gestapo Kartei, but
"normal" holocaust victims.

Now to the Landesgericht - the court. I cannot access
the 18 victims >from the Gestapo Kartei by a
reverse-address search on Doew - so am unable to say
who they are. But Wolf-Erich has a Doew CD and there
he can find them.

I have however discovered how **all** of us can find
the people murdered {or who died in suspicious
circumstances} at the Landesgericht, Vienna.
Please enter "Landesgericht" into the slot designated: Oder
nach einem Betreff uber die gesamte Liste suchen:
on the "Letter to the Stars" website:
http://www.lettertothestars.at/

You will find 39 names and click on each name in turn
to see which of them were deported >from the
Landesgerichtsstr. or which were killed at the Landes-
gericht itself. Here are 20 victims of summary
justice in the Nazi era. :

Josef ANDERSCH born ?
Max Israel BUCHLER [umlaut] born ?
Kurt GLASER born ?
Richard GLASER born ?
Felix GRAFE* born 09.07.1888 in Humpoletz
Elfriede HARTMANN* born 21.05.1921 in Vienna
Josef JAKOBOVICS* born 31.01.1916 in Vienna
Heinrich KAUFLER* born 10.06.1913 in ?
Schmiel LEIBEL born ?
Alexander LUBEK [umlaut] born ?
Theresia MELLER* born 27.01.1918 in Vienna
Herbert POPPER born ?
Bernhard PROPPER born in 01.01.1908 in Vienna
Alexander Johannes ROSENHEIM* born 07.12.1904 in
Vienna
Leopold SEGALL* born 19.11.1905 in Vienna
Ernst SPATZ born 13.01.1907 in Vienna
Ernst Israel SPATZ born 03.03.1923
Franz STIMMER born ?
Otto TAUSSIK born 17.07.1870 in Chotebor
Adolf WALTUCH born 13.09.1909 in ?

I was most interested to see that some died at the
Landesgericht as late as March 1945. I feel sure there
must be police records somewhere about these deaths
- if we could only locate them. They may even be in
Moscow, where I know some vital documents and data
ended up. You can see photographs of those victims
with an asterisk after their names on Doew "Nicht mehr
Anonym [look for the link on the right of the home
page] http://www.doew.at/. Enter the surname into the
search slot. Click on the photographs for comments on
their endictment. For Leopold SEGALL there is a
detailed account of his execution in Berlin.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: Heinz KAUFLER whom Wolf-Erich found on the
Gestapo list is listed on Letter to the Stars as
Heinrich KAUFLER - I have cross-checked all these
names on Yad Vashem to see what it says about their
fate. Further postings will deal with this distressing
subject. We remember them all here today.