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Did Russia Shapiros come from Lithuania? #belarus


MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 98-09-30 20:16:46 EDT, davic@pop.erols.com writes:

<< After perusing the Shtetl finder list, I found so many Shapiro families
originating >from towns in Lithuania, that I am even more convinced that my
ancestors on the Shapiro side who lived on the Russia/Belarus border in
Surazh and who were Lubavitchers, must have originated up north in
Lithuania, with a branch moving down to Russia/Belarus for business
reasons. >>

==There were Shapiros all over Europe. The name is generally considered to
have been borne by Jews who came >from Speyer, in the Rhine valley of Germany.
There may be some connection, too, to the Hebrew Saphir (Sapphire) and Shafir
(Excellent). I don't know that there were more Shapiros in Lithuania than
anywhere else, or that there were more Chabadniks among them.

Michael Bernet
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seeking:

BERNET, BERNAT, BAERNET etc >from Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg, (Bavaria)
KONIGSHOFER: Welbhausen, Konigshofen, Furth (S. Germany)
ALTMANN: Kattowitz, Breslau, Poznan, Beuthen--Upper Silesia/Poland
WOLF(F): Frankfurt, Wurzburg, Furth, Yugoslavia, Westchester


David Goldman <davic@...>
 

On 30 Sep 1998 17:16:40 -0700, in soc.genealogy.jewish
davic@pop.erols.com (David Goldman) wrote:

After perusing the Shtetl finder list, I found so many Shapiro families
originating >from towns in Lithuania, that I am even more convinced that my
ancestors on the Shapiro side who lived on the Russia/Belarus border in
Surazh and who were Lubavitchers, must have originated up north in
Lithuania, with a branch moving down to Russia/Belarus for business
reasons. It was probably my great-great-grandfather or his father before
him. I wonder how many other Shapiros, even >from Lithuania, were also
Lubavitcher chassidim....

David Goldman
davic@erols.com


Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

David Goldman wrote in message
<3.0.1.32.19980929123702.006dd210@pop.erols.com>...
After perusing the Shtetl finder list, I found so many Shapiro families
originating >from towns in Lithuania, that I am even more convinced that my
ancestors on the Shapiro side who lived on the Russia/Belarus border in
Surazh and who were Lubavitchers, must have originated up north in
Lithuania, with a branch moving down to Russia/Belarus for business
reasons
Don't forget that in the century and more before the Partitions of Poland,
much of modern Belarus was PART of Lithuania. Then much of what we now call
Lithuania was part of the Russian Empire. This might help explain many
movements of families as international borders would not have been present
to discourage such movement.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY
PZAVON@Worldnet.att.net