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who gets surnames based on city names? #belarus
Leonid Zeliger <leonidze@...>
The interesting remarks by Bob Kossovsky is just another evidence of
our historical reality. The 18 - 19th century was a period of major
migration of Jewish population inside the Pale. This resulted in
appearance of "location" names just at the areas which were distant
from their geographical source. As Prof. Lazerow rightly mentionedthere was no need to emphasize the Mogilev origin in Mogilev, while it
was quite reasonable in Nesvizh. Also interesting is a presence of two
variant of the same name: Mogilevsky versus Mogilever, Berlinsky v.
Berliner , Vilensky v.Vilner. This maybe reflects the dominating
cultural/educational tendency of local Russian bureaucracy ,
Westernized (Germanic) or pro-Slavic orientation.
--- Bert Lazerow <lazer@...> wrote:
It only makes
sense if you liveThis fits with a story my grandfather told me.
He said his grandfather took the name Pasternak while
his grandfather's brother took the name Brodsky
"because thats where he was from" ie the town of Brod
in Russian Galicia. The family moved >from Brod to
Odessa after the Russians took over Odessa >from the
Turks in the 1790's.
And there are several persons named Koidanover after
my fathers town of Koidanov, Minsk. One is a famous
Bob Kosovsky questions the proposition that when surnames
were taken, a person often took a surname related to the place where
he was living.
If this theory were true, logic would indicate that a majority ofAll true.
I pondered this for a while some years ago. Then I decided
that there would be no point in taking a surname that designated the
place where you currently lived. It only makes sense if you live
somewhere else. So, for instance, I have records >from Nezhin Ukraine
for 1860-1918. Looking through them, I found no people with the
surname "Nezhinskii", but I found families named "Varshavskii",
"Tarnapolskii", "Moskovskii", Mogilevskii, "Umanskii", and
"Berliner". These were people living in Nezhin at the time, and it
was convenient to label them as Khaim >from Warsaw or Khaim >from
Berlin. This would not have been convenient if they still lived in
Warsaw or Berlin, as there would have been too many Khaims of Warsaw there.
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