"Riga Kurlander Verein" and the unbalanced work load #courland #latvia


MishkinMA <MishkinMA@...>
 

I do not often correspond with this group, however I feel compelled to do so
in this case simply to validate Martha's message. Although I volunteered
and participated in a transliteration project this past fall, I certainly
have not invested as much as I have withdrawn >from the "genealogy bank
account" here, and frankly, some of us probably needed a scolding to dust
off our collective conscience. Sometimes direct and passionate feedback is
just what the doctor ordered.
Marty Mishkin
Cincinnati, Ohio USA

Researching:
PANZ/PANTZ/PANCZ (Liepaja, Grobina, Griva, Daugavpils, Riga)
GOLDBERG (Liepaja, Grobina, Riga)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Allan Blair" <ablair@columbus.rr.com>
To: "Courland Area Research Group" <courland@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: "Riga Kurlander Verein" and the unbalanced work load


Gee, Martha, you surely do sound angry. You're probably right, but I
don't
think that all that anger will get us anywhere, except make everyone angry
with you.

Now, where were we?

Allan


Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

Thank you, Joe! A very good suggestion! We need people with and without
language skills. The languages involving Jewish Latvia are mostly old
Factur German, Hebrew and Russian.
We need people to copy and type data
into EXCEL spreadsheets; we need people simply to transcribe >from one
written source to a database; for the Kurlander Verein, we need people who
can contact Jewish cemeteries in their areas and find out if there are any
Kurlander/Riga sections. If there are, we need them to volunteer to copy
the tombstones and to photograph them. Whatever is written in Hebrew can
be taken >from the photo and translated by someone [me, for instance] with
Hebrew skills. We have already embarked on an enormous project to
transcribe and translate the Herder films concerning the Jews of Courland.

This requires the availability of a microfilm reader and transcribing all
the Jewish information >from the film to an EXCEL spreadsheet database. One
of the first databases we put up on the Courland site was the 1799 Oklad
from Goldingen. Since that was prior to the taking of last names, I have
been trying to tie those families in with the earliest data we have
available after the taking of last names. When I finally complete the
work, those with families in the first database will be able to trace
their families back to at least the first quarter of the 1700's, provided
they have already worked their families back to the early 1800s. I and
another volunteer are also trying to database the burial register from
Dvinsk.That is in Hebrew, sometimes illegible and a difficult task. We have
information on Latvians who were living in Brussels. That needs to be
databased and is in French. We even have articles in Latvian that need to
be translated and copied into English.

So you see, there is plenty to do, even if you have no particular language
skills. We also need people to help us monetarily since we have people in
Latvia searching for written records and information >from a vast variety of
sources. Both their skills and the actual sources cost money, if not to
purchase, then to copy. Pitch in and join our efforts!

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Omer, Israel


Good for you!!!!

Perhaps if you explain what needs to be done, and how it is done, some of us
with few skills, but plenty of time will be willing to help.

I have not offered to help primarily because I'm afraid that I do not have
the skills necessary to really be of help.

Let me know more, and if able I will help.

Love,

jJoe Bein


Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 


I will do whatever I can to translate; reproduce; fund, etc. the
preservation of documents.

My husband's family will lead, but an amazing number of Scots-Irish types
will follow on the effort in the preservation of documents which must be
treasured.

Margaret Adamson Hester Kannensohn
Lexington, Kentucky
Hats off to you, Margaret!! Thank you!! We will be in touch with you
about utilizing your very welcome talents and resources!

Martha


Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

Gee, Martha, you surely do sound angry. You're probably right, but I don't
think that all that anger will get us anywhere, except make everyone angry
with you.

Now, where were we?

Allan
Maybe you are right Allan. I wasn't as angry as I am frustrated. There are
so few of us doing so much for the rest that I worried about burnout. One
cannot expect these few people to extend themselves all the time for the
vast majority. As it happens, since my posting we have had a fair number of
people volunteering and I am feeling much better about things.

My major worry is that I believe in trying to reconstruct the families of
Courland who are no more. No country suffered as great a percentage of
murder and disappearance of their Jews as we did in Latvia. Some families
have no witnesses to their very existence; they were all wiped off the face
of the earth. Every soul should have a name; every Jew should be
remembered. And I fear that the ceaseless work the few of us are doing
will wear us down and burn us out. I am also very family oriented and I
love watching the successful reuniting of families who had long since lost
touch. I don't want any of that to be lost. Courlanders share a special
history and a culture that is common to us all; we are, in effect, one big
extended family. So I thought that we could all pull together as a family
and share the load.

I think that we are getting closer to that goal! So "where were we?" -
pulling together toward our common goal!

Martha


Allan Blair <ablair@...>
 

Gee, Martha, you surely do sound angry. You're probably right, but I don't
think that all that anger will get us anywhere, except make everyone angry
with you.

Now, where were we?

Allan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martha Lev-Zion" <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>
To: "Courland Area Research Group" <courland@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:00 AM
Subject: "Riga Kurlander Verein" and the unbalanced work load


It is hard for me to believe that only four of you are willing to do the
grunt work on locating and copying Kurlander burial sites in the world.
That is not enough to get the project off the ground. Are the rest of you
waiting for someone else to do the work and post it so that you can reap
the benefits? Everyone wants to find his family's information up on the
internet, but how do you think those details get there? Some of us have
sacrificed countless hours and enormous amounts of money to make our
Courland/Latvia website excellent and informative. Do the rest of you
think that happens by magic? And if the few of us who are doing all the
work burn out, where will that leave the rest of you? Will you grumble
then about having so little on the website? Or about the website not
having
been updated in so long? It galls me to see how willing most of you are
to
sit back and let someone else do the work or donate their hard earned
dollars/pounds/shekels to our projects when you do nothing to enjoin us
and
use the information for your own genealogy without somehow pitching in.
All
the energy that we dedicate to the general good of Courlanders and
Latvians
we have to steal >from our own personal genealogy research and our
families.
Wouldn't you think that more of you would be grateful and dedicate a
little
of your energies and money to help us? I would like to know why you
aren't
knocking down our doors in an effort to share the burden...

Your comments, donations and offers of help are always welcome!

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, in Omer, Israel


En4cer48@...
 

Hello!


I am a High Church Episcopalian with a husband of 29 years and two daughters;
his heritage is >from Courland.

For some odd reason, I can type in any Slavic/Grecian/Russian/Germanic/Latin
language.

I wouldn't bet too much on my ability to translate all of same, except for
Latin, German, and some Slovak languages. I can do Germanic church
(Evangalisch u. Katholisch) u. mit Dichte u. diplomatic correspondence ca.
1800 century. I can read and transliterate Old German writing, even if I find
the essence most annoying.

Kurland is the world of my children's great/great grandfather.


As Scotland and England, Ireland and Wales produced me, Kurland, produced my
husband of 29 years, and thus our children.

I will do whatever I can to translate; reproduce; fund, etc. the
preservation of documents.

My husband's family will lead, but an amazing number of Scots-Irish types
will follow on the effort in the preservation of documents which must be
treasured.

Margaret Adamson Hester Kannensohn
Lexington, Kentucky


joebein365@...
 

Good for you!!!!

Perhaps if you explain what needs to be done, and how it is done, some of us
with few skills, but plenty of time will be willing to help.

I have not offered to help primarily because I'm afraid that I do not have
the skills necessary to really be of help.

Let me know more, and if able I will help.

Love,

jJoe Bein


Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

It is hard for me to believe that only four of you are willing to do the
grunt work on locating and copying Kurlander burial sites in the world.
That is not enough to get the project off the ground. Are the rest of you
waiting for someone else to do the work and post it so that you can reap
the benefits? Everyone wants to find his family's information up on the
internet, but how do you think those details get there? Some of us have
sacrificed countless hours and enormous amounts of money to make our
Courland/Latvia website excellent and informative. Do the rest of you
think that happens by magic? And if the few of us who are doing all the
work burn out, where will that leave the rest of you? Will you grumble
then about having so little on the website? Or about the website not having
been updated in so long? It galls me to see how willing most of you are to
sit back and let someone else do the work or donate their hard earned
dollars/pounds/shekels to our projects when you do nothing to enjoin us and
use the information for your own genealogy without somehow pitching in. All
the energy that we dedicate to the general good of Courlanders and Latvians
we have to steal >from our own personal genealogy research and our families.
Wouldn't you think that more of you would be grateful and dedicate a little
of your energies and money to help us? I would like to know why you aren't
knocking down our doors in an effort to share the burden...

Your comments, donations and offers of help are always welcome!

Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, in Omer, Israel