If Results are Not Beneficial to Research, Why Test? #dna


Marsha Epstein <marsha.epstein@...>
 

I helped a man find his birth family via autosomal DNA. It found a 2nd
cousin. I asked the 2nd cousin if she had any relatives who had ever
lived in St. Louis (where the man had been born) and yes, her 2nd
cousin's father had lived in St. Louis. Turned out the 2nd cousin's
father was the man's birth father and the man found his birth family,
proven by YDNA testing, similarity in features, and facts matching the
stories he'd been told about his birth father.

Marsha Epstein


Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

I could not tell rather Carolyn Lea (nee Schwarzbaum) had her father
tested or rather it was her Population Finder results that said your
father was an Ashkenazi. If it was >from his results and he was tested on
the Y, there is no reason to have you brother tested unless you do not
trust your mother. :-) If your father was not tested, getting your
brother Y tested could be useful for following your direct paternal line.
The "Advanced Matches" listing does show the male haplogroups and you
could drop anyone that is not in his haplogroup. If you do get your
brother FF tested, his list should have a few different names then your
and where the common DNA with others could be totally different.

About using the mtDNA testing for you maternal gg grandmother, the person
tested could be a male also since a mother pass the mtDNA down to all of
her children. One thing about mtDNA, it does not mutation very fast and
your may be share with millions of others.

Sidney Sachs
Lorton, VA
J2b2e Y-DNA haplogroup


elanc@...
 

Hi Carolyn,

The usefulness of DNA testing for expanding one's family tree is
indeed questionable. In most cases the matches you find will lead
to common ancestors who lived long before the reach of your family
tree. However, in some cases the test can be a magic bullet, as
should be the case of your direct maternal GGGM. If you have
another suspected maternal line descendant then an MTDNA test
should give you a good answer. If the DNA doesn't match, you know
there was a break in the hereditary line. If they match perfectly,
there is a very good chance (close to but not quite 100%) that you
have a GGGM in common.

Elan Caspi
Belmont, CA


sbloom@...
 

Although I have been subscribed for quite some time, it is only since
testing with FTDNA that I have gone back and read all the posts.
Although I am glad to confirm that my father was Ashkenazi with FF, I am
beginning to wonder if there is any point to testing my brother. He
would be a direct male Schwarzbaum line and I had wanted to have him do
FF and YDNA testing during the Xmas sale. However >from reading, FF fives
false positives for Ashkenazi Jews due to intermarriage and the Y test
is not useful for making connections at a paper trail level.
Somewhat true, but not completely so. I have found two confrmable relatives
via autosomal dna, and have other matches that are good leads. Though, this
was with two companies, and almost 5000 total unique matches between them.
Thats not a high yield. I have no confirmed relatives via ydna, though have
had it work a bit better with folks in surname projects I am part of.

So, whereas dna tests are not a panacea, and can take a long time to
yield results, they can be useful, especially if you are alo willing to
do the traditional genealogy.

I still don't understand everything I am looking at on my own test. Is
DNA testing only useful for seeing if two families are related or is
there a real reason to test my brother?
I am not sure what you are asking, exactly, but it is indeed most
useful for testing connections between individuals, but can also find
new relatives, potentially.

I do want to locate a direct line female on my mother's side to verify
that we share the same gg-grandmother. Will mtDNA testing confirm that?
Yes, but be careful. Really make sure that it is the DIRECT female line
for both of you (mother's mother's mother's). If there is even one male
in the line, it will be completely useless.

I have found cousins >from obits but if DNA can't confirm my question I
don't want to ask and pay for someone I don't know to test - if they
would even agree. My mother's family was not Jewish. This is for a
German protestant >from the Brandenburg area. I have been unable to
verify her birth year and location and if she was the child of the same
woman that md my gg-grandfather and had the other children or if he was
md previously.
All I can say is that the tests have *potential* to help, but no guarantees.

Steven D. Bloom


Carolyn Lea
 

Although I have been subscribed for quite some time, it is only since
testing with FTDNA that I have gone back and read all the posts.
Although I am glad to confirm that my father was Ashkenazi with FF, I am
beginning to wonder if there is any point to testing my brother. He
would be a direct male Schwarzbaum line and I had wanted to have him do
FF and YDNA testing during the Xmas sale. However >from reading, FF fives
false positives for Ashkenazi Jews due to intermarriage and the Y test
is not useful for making connections at a paper trail level.

I still don't understand everything I am looking at on my own test. Is
DNA testing only useful for seeing if two families are related or is
there a real reason to test my brother?

I do want to locate a direct line female on my mother's side to verify
that we share the same gg-grandmother. Will mtDNA testing confirm that?
I have found cousins >from obits but if DNA can't confirm my question I
don't want to ask and pay for someone I don't know to test - if they
would even agree. My mother's family was not Jewish. This is for a
German protestant >from the Brandenburg area. I have been unable to
verify her birth year and location and if she was the child of the same
woman that md my gg-grandfather and had the other children or if he was
md previously.

Carolyn Lea (nee Schwarzbaum)
Oklahoma City, OK
LeacL7@...

ID# 152314

Researching: SCHWARZBAUM/SCHWARTZBAUM > Posen, Prussia >New York,
Savannah, Georgia and California ROTHSCHILD/ROTHCHILD> Zierenberg,
Hessen Kassel, Hamburg? Prussia> Darien and Savannah, Georgia
BASCH>Prussia>Savannah, Georgia LEWISOHN/LEVISON Elbing, West Prussia>
Brunswick and Savannah, Georgia OPPENHEIM(ER) > Hannover>Savannah,
Georgia and South Carolina WEINBERG >Prussia? Hamburg?> Georgia