Given Names Miriam and Malke #galicia


Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article Eden Joachim < esjoachim@optonline.net> wrote:

Are any of you able to tell me if there is a relationship between the
female given names Miriam and Malke?
The only relationship that they both start with M.

My great great grandmother died in Newark, New Jersey in 1910, and her son
listed her mother's name as Miriam. The records for Rzeszow, Poland, from
whence she came, do not have any entries giving the mother's name as
Miriam, but do have many entries for a mother named Malke.
It was quite common that an immigrant with a Hebrew/Yiddish name such as
Malke would choose a more "American-sounding" name such as Miriam, often
one starting with the same letter.

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
http://www.math.ubc.ca/~israel
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Eden Joachim posted as follows:

"Are any of you able to tell me if there is a relationship between the
female given names Miriam and Malke?

I have searched Professor Esterson's Given Names Database and cannot make a
determination.

My great great grandmother died in Newark, New Jersey in 1910, and her son
listed her mother's name as Miriam. The records for Rzeszow, Poland, from
whence she came, do not have any entries giving the mother's name as
Miriam, but do have many entries for a mother named Malke."


These two Hebrew given names (Miriam and Malke) are completely independent
of one another. They have different origins.

But having said that, it was sometimes the case that Jewish parents in
European countries chose two names for a child, not only in order to honor
two different dead ancestors, but also because they sounded good
together. I think that is the case for Miryam and Malke -- they both begin with the letter "M" and they do sound good together. But all this says, is that Eden has a low-grade "hunters license" to try to show that the GG grandmother may have had both names and sometimes used one, other times, the other for different purposes.

I would save the information for the different names and continue to search for both of them in archival documents until one is sure one way or the other.

If it turns out that she did have both names, then it means of course that
Eden should also search in the archives for those ancestors for whom the GG grandmother was named.

Professor G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel


garymaher@...
 

Are any of you able to tell me if there is a relationship between
the female given names Miriam and Malke?
In my experience, when transferring >from Europe to English speaking
countries, any given name with the same initial letter is fair game.
That's not to say that they always kept the same first letter -- to take
just one example, many women named Shaina became Jenny -- but I sure
wouldn't rule out Molly, Mary, Martha or Miriam as corresponding to
Malke.

Gary Maher
NJ / USA


Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

Are any of you able to tell me if there is a relationship between the female
given names Miriam and Malke?

I have searched Professor Esterson's Given Names Database and cannot make a
determination.

My great great grandmother died in Newark, New Jersey in 1910, and her son
listed her mother's name as Miriam. The records for Rzeszow, Poland, from
whence she came, do not have any entries giving the mother's name as Miriam,
but do have many entries for a mother named Malke.

As always, your assistance is appreciated.

Thanks,
Eden Joachim
Pomona, New York
esjoachim@optonline.net