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ELLIS ISLAND TO GET FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH CENTER
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(Press Release October 28, 1998)
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is playing a key role in the establishment of a family history research center on New York's Ellis Island, where in two years the public will have automated access to a computerized database containing 17 million U.S. immigration records.

At a news conference today on the island, Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation Chairman Emeritus, Lee Iacocca announced plans for the American> Family Immigration History Center, expected to open in the year 2000.

During the past five years, the Church, in cooperation with the foundation and the National Park Service, has spent more than two million volunteer hours digitizing Ellis Island records. To date, 65 percent of the records have been extracted >from microfilmed copies of the original ledgers - passenger records and ships' manifests - which were mostly hand-written, faded and damaged. The original documents were destroyed years ago.

The remaining 35 percent of the records will be extracted and digitized by the opening of the center, which will be situated in the Ellis Island Immigration Museum. The center will house tate-of-the-art interactive computer technology that will bring family documentation and genealogical exploration to visitors.

The Ellis Island records represent some 60 percent of all U.S. immigration records. It is estimated that more than 100 million Americans today can trace their roots to immigrants who passed through Ellis Island between 1892 > and 1924.

The Family History Department of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is a world leader in genealogical research with more than 3,200 family history centers worldwide, and the world's largest collection of family history records, housed in Salt Lake City.
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Steven Chall <steven.chall@...>
 

Several people have written to me directly (in addition to those who
posted to the Discussion Group as a whole) regarding the Lee Iacocca
story I reported earlier this week. FWIW, the Ellis Island website
provides an opportunity to send them an e-mail comment. I did express my
concern but they have not responded as yet (if ever).

Steven Chall in Minneapolis, MN
Researching:
ALEXANDER-&-CHALL (Dvinsk,Russia (now Latvia); before 1900)
ZELMANOV-&-HALKIN (Bobruisk, Russia; before 1907) (France; abt 1930)
BECKER-&-CHASKELEVITZ-(became_CHASWORTH) (Kishenev, Bessarabia; before
1920) (Oreyev, abt 1940)
Someday BRODSKY, COHEN, KAPLAN (Poland / Russia)
All ended up in parts of New York City


Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

Sally Bruckheimer sallybru@net.bluemoon.net wrote:

Ellis Island started in the early 1890's, but there was a fire in 1897.
All it's records and Castle Garden records there were lost. So the
records and indexes which are available start in 1897.
This is false. These immigration records were *not* destroyed.
This is a myth.

Ellis Island opened January 1, 1892. Yes, the complex was destroyed
by a fire on June 14, 1897 -- and some administrative records were
lost. The earlier passenger arrival manifests are intact.

New York City's Customs Passenger Lists are largely complete from
1820 to 1897. The National Archives has microfilmed these records,
and they are available on 675 rolls of microfilm: National Archives
Microfilm Publication M237. For a reel-by-reel list with dates, see
http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/rg36nyk2.html
These microfilms are available at the National Archives in Washington
and several of its branches, as well as at several public libraries.
These microfilms are also available for borrowing at any of 3,400
LDS Family History Centers. For microfilm ordering numbers, see
http://www.familysearch.org/sg/CCF1/5681.html

The original pre-1897 passenger manifests -- eleven tons of them --
are now at the Temple-Balch Center for Immigration Research in
Philadelphia.

For more information on passenger list research, see the
JewishGen FAQ ("Frequently Asked Questions") document at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html

Warren

Warren Blatt
Boston, MA
wblatt@jewishgen.org


Chuck Weinstein <cweinstein@...>
 

There is absolutely nothing of genealogical import at Ellis Island.
There are no records accessible to the public. On the other hand, there
is an impressive museum display that allows you to capture the feel of
what it must have felt like to arrive there, hoping and praying that you
were able to get past the selection process that sent many would-be
immigrants back home for medical and other reasons. There is a Wall of
Immigration, on which, for a fee, you can have the names of your
immigrant ancestors engraved, but their presence or lack thereof has no
relationship as to whether or not they actually entered through Ellis
Island. Many of our ancestors entered through other ports, or came
before Ellis Island opened in 1892. Don't misunderstand, I strongly
encourage anyone planning to visit New York Harbor to see and experience
Ellis Island, but if you are going there expecting to do any research,
you will be disappointed. NARA has an excellent facility on Manhattan
that has many of the records >from Ellis Island available on microfilm.

Chuck Weinstein in San Mateo, CA
chuck.weinstein@mindspring.com


Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz <idayosef@...>
 

As a footnote to the Ellis Island experience, I discovered when I visited
some years ago that whoever had inscribed the names of the European ports
from which immigrants left had mixed up the Roumanian port Costanza with
the old name of Istanbul, Constantinople. There were also some errors in
identification of Jewish religious artifacts. I sent a letter and received
a very nice thank you note. I wonder if these errors were ever rectified.
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

Chuck Weinstein wrote:

There is absolutely nothing of genealogical import at Ellis Island.
There are no records accessible to the public. On the other hand, there
is an impressive museum display that allows you to capture the feel of
what it must have felt like to arrive there, hoping and praying that you
were able to get past the selection process that sent many would-be
immigrants back home for medical and other reasons. There is a Wall of
Immigration, on which, for a fee, you can have the names of your
immigrant ancestors engraved, but their presence or lack thereof has no
relationship as to whether or not they actually entered through Ellis
Island. Many of our ancestors entered through other ports, or came
before Ellis Island opened in 1892. Don't misunderstand, I strongly
encourage anyone planning to visit New York Harbor to see and experience
Ellis Island, but if you are going there expecting to do any research,
you will be disappointed. NARA has an excellent facility on Manhattan
that has many of the records >from Ellis Island available on microfilm.

Chuck Weinstein in San Mateo, CA
chuck.weinstein@mindspring.com
mailto:cweinstein@jewishgen.org


Kendrick Kreations <racecar3@...>
 

Talner@aol.com wrote:

Dear Chuck and Genners
SNIP . . ..

Chuck's comment, "There is absolutely nothing of genealogical import
at Ellis Island. There are no records accessible to the public." is
simply not true.
I second that. Remember, there are also computers to research at Ellis
Island that have many of the names of those individuals who arrived
there.

Nancy Ring Kendrick
http://www.pclink.com/tar/genealogy.html


Rafi Guber
 

Dear Chuck and Genners

Speaking in absolute terms can be dangerous and misleading. While it is
true that Ellis Island does not have the traditional microfilm ) (passenger
lists) information people generally wish to find, the research library,
which can be viewed with special permission has many important records
about life on Ellis island and the process of immigration.

It also has the most complete ship postcard collection I have ever seen and
in some cases transcripts of actual immigrants pleading before a inquiry
panel. They also have some files on benovelent socities. Most importantly,
they have some people there who have knowledge of Ellis island who might
help researchers to look in a certain direction to further their specific
research.

I fully understand Chuck means well by his comments, but we need to get
over this idea that if a place does not have a document with "my ancestors
name on it" its usless to me.

Chuck's comment, "There is absolutely nothing of genealogical import at
Ellis Island. There are no records accessible to the public." is simply not
true. You can ask for permission to use the research library and you may
learn something which ultimately has direct genealogical import to your
research.

We have grown as a group to a point were we have to get more in touch with
the interpretive and forensic nature of genealogical inquiry. Otherwise we
just have a collection of not much more than "phone books full of dead
people.

Sincerely

Rafael Guber


David Bajot - temp act <dbajot2@...>
 

No you do not. I recommend getting up around 5AM eastern time
and registering then. It will only take a few minutes, and the
system will remember who you are >from that point on anyway (assuming
you select that option).

The index card info is free. I think you have to pay to see a copy
of the actual manifest actually (which you can order >from microfilm
from your local LDS family history center.)
David Bajot
dbajot@usa.net
Columbus, OH

Researching:
BAJOWICZ (BAJOVICH/BAJOWITSCH), KLEINWACHS, SCHEINER, POPPER, COHN,
SHUSTER, JOSEPH (JOSEF), REBLEAU


Finally got on to the data base but cannot access the system because of
registration. Do you have to send money to access the info. Please
advise the steps involved to access the data base. Thanks for your help


Bernie Hirsch <bernie06@...>
 

No, the actual manifest is free also. You just click on the Manifest button
once you get the details of the record. Once there you can zoom, etc.
However, it is cumbersome to print it or save it as an image. The actual
manifest has very interesting information like hair color, eye color,
height, place of birth, ever been to the US before?, address of relative or
friend going to join, etc.

I did not find any of my family, but I did find my father-in-law's
grandfather and his aunts. The grandfather was going to be with his son who
had already immigrated -- it had his full street address.

--Bernie Hirsch bernie06@sprynet.com Dallas, Texas

David Bajot - temp act wrote:

The index card info is free. I think you have to pay to see a copy
of the actual manifest actually (which you can order >from microfilm
from your local LDS family history center.)
--
Kind regards,
Bernie Hirsch


Chuck Weinstein <cweinstein@...>
 

I was able to successfully register and navigate this database for about
two hours. There are some pitfalls to be noted.

Not all records are available yet. Apparently, only about 70% of
passenger records are currently available with more to come. If you
don't find your ancestor keep trying.

More importantly, it is rife with errors. I entered the surname
"Rigler" and got 29 hits. Two were members of the family, but the town
name was spelled incorrectly. When I broadened the search to similar
names, I got four "Reglers" and one "Reglar" who are also related.
Again, the town name (Podu Turcului, Romania) was misspelled in
different fashions, and only the fact that I knew where they were from
enabled me to identify those people. If I had been trying to use the
records to identify or confirm a place, I would have been led in the
wrong direction. On the other hand, it is hard to read those manifests!

This database is not the panacea for our searches, but it can be
helpful. You will get the dreaded bounce message quite regularly; keep
trying. As the site gets older, it will calm down.

Chuck Weinstein in San Mateo, CA
cweinstein@jewishgen.org


Nemeth Family <snemeth@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers! I want to express my appreciation to each of you
who tried to help me find a record of Hersh Kalafer in the Ellis Island
files. Unfortunately, all was in vain. I originally found the manifest
for the arrival of Hersh Kalafer at an LDS Family History Center. They
had a copy of the US National Archives Arrival List Microfilm No. K120
that showed the arrival of the SS Kroonland at Ellis Island on December
21, 1904. One of the passengers was Hersh Kalafer, age 28. His place of
origin is shown as Austria. Unfortunately, it was one of my early
attempts at geneological reseach and I failed to do what every good
researcher should do: Make a Copy. I have checked every name on the
orginal manifest pages of the SS Kroonland for that date in the Ellis
Island files. There is no listing of Hersh Kalafer or any similar entry.
Why?
Victor Singer
You've got the wrong spelling for the database.

Hersch Kalika, Russia, Hebrew, Residence Podolsk, Date of Arrival 22 Nov
1904, Age 28, Male Single, SS Kroonland, departed Antwerp, Belgium. He is
on line 21 of frame 0638 and

On the original manifest he is marked as traveling with a cousin who's last
name is Kleinman. They are both 28. Your relative was a laborer but his
cousin was married and a tailor. They were going together to their cousin
(D. Gurschman??) at 200 Midleton St, Brooklyn. I can't get the second page
of the manifest, but now that you've got the spelling the database is
using, you ought to be able to try again at a better time.

Stella Calderon Nemeth
snemeth@home.com

Researching the Ottoman Empire
CALDERON/KALDERON (Monastir and Jerusalem)
CATALAN/KATALAN (Rhodes and the Turkish Mainland)
AVZARADEL/TARICA


MMBegun@...
 

The reason that Ellis Island is closed is that the main route to reach it
is by ferry at lower Manhattan, at the Hudson River edge of Battery Park,
south of the World Trade Center. That's the area that has been totally
closed to all kinds of traffic. I imagine that as the situation returns
to some new kind of normal, access will open up again, and the ferries
will resume running.
Mila Begun in New York City


nsolat@...
 

You should know that the LDS web site for Ellis Island, for all its great
value, has a great many omissions and errors. For example, I couldn't find my
grandfather's arrival on the Ellis Island site, but did find him and the
manifest at the National Archives in Washington. The National Archives has
many regional offices, and there may be one near you. Look up www.nara.gov.

Norm Solat

"Silverman, Bill" wrote:

I am looking for KSENDOVSKY and SILVERMAN family members arriving at ELlis
Island and cannotfind them. I have tried all the various combinations of
letters and still no luck. BTW, KSENDOVSKY in Mogilven Podulsky became
Sadowsky in Brooklyn, Zilberman (>from Barr?) became Silverman.

Bill Silverman
<bsilverman@maaco.com>


Gladys Paulin <paulin@...>
 

Howie Axelrod wrote:
Ellis Island - Record of Aliens Held for Special Inquiry vs Record of Detained
Aliens - Difference? Both documents appear at the end of the passenger Manifests
in the EI records. What is the difference?<

Detained aliens were persons who were eligible for admission but were held
temporarily for one of many reasons. A common reason was that single women and
women with young children were not released until met by an adult male relative or
taken under the wing of a charitable organization; another family may have been
waiting for the release of a sick child, or the arrival of ongoing tickets or
passage money. The list for these people will show to whom released, how long they
were detained and the number of meals provided.

Those held for Special Inquiry were those thought not eligible for admission. This
list will show cause of detention, the number and dates of any hearings and
whether admitted or deported. If deported, the date and ship of deportation should
be listed.

Gladys Friedman Paulin, CGRS
Winter Springs, FL

Editor "OnBoard the Newsletter of the Board for Certification of Genealogists"
CGRS, Certified Genealogical Records Specialist, is a Service mark of the Board
for Certification of Genealogists and is used under license by Board-certified
persons who meet program standards and periodic rigorous evaluations.


Moshe Fink <mosfink@...>
 

Dear Genealogists,

I tried to find the S.S. Campanello ship manifest that arrived in New
York on May 17th 1912. To do so I entered the Ellis Island site,
clicked "Passenger Search", then "Search by ship", I entered the
Campanello ship details, and a passenger list appeared with the Lea
Reichman family members in which I was interested. When I tried to
open the ship manifest, it showed me the ship manifest of an
entirely different ship the "Mauritania". I tried to "jump" several
pages forward and then backwards, but I got stuck with the
"Mauritania" and could not find the "Campanello".

I tried the Steve Morse web site, but with same results.

Could you please help me in finding the ship manifest of the Lea
Reichman family. It is of course possible that the family came on
a different date, I tried it but I did not get any results.

Msoshe Fink, Hrerzliya, Israel


Brian Stern <brians99@...>
 

They came >from Skalat? Boruch, Dina, Josef, Bertha, Lea, Anna?

Go to stevemorse.org.
Click on the "Ellis Island Gold Form" link.
Enter First Name: Lea
Last Name: Reichman
Don't change anything else
Click Search
On the results page there are two results.
Click one of the choices for the 1912 record >from Skalat.
You want to get to the scanned manifest page.
There are two pages for the arrival record.

Good luck,

Brian Stern, Lexington KY

Moshe Fink <mosfink@gmail.com> wrote:

I tried to find the S.S. Campanello ship manifest that arrived in New
York on May 17th 1912. To do so I entered the Ellis Island site,
clicked "Passenger Search", then "Search by ship", I entered the
Campanello ship details, and a passenger list appeared with the Lea
Reichman family members in which I was interested. When I tried to
open the ship manifest, it showed me the ship manifest of an
entirely different ship the "Mauritania". I tried to "jump" several
pages forward and then backwards, but I got stuck with the
"Mauritania" and could not find the "Campanello"....