Town called Chodlsoff #galicia


Stephen Denker
 

My grandfather's 1913 naturalization papers says he was born
September 1870 in Chodlsoff Austria.

Any suggestions as to the "correct" name?

Stephen Denker
Researching Denker, Geller, and Billman.
Brookline, MA


Phyllis Kramer
 

Stephen Denker asked "My grandfather's 1913 naturalization papers says
he was born September 1870 in Chodlsoff Austria. Any suggestions as to
the 'correct' name?"

First, was the name typed or handwritten?

Second, do check the 1930 and 1940 census too, as it may give another
country.

Third, endings which sound like "off" usually are written "ow," "ov" or "iv."

Fourth, most likely if he said Austria, it would have meant Galicia, and
would be in either Poland or Ukraine today.

So I tried the JewishGen community pages for a town starting in Cho in
Poland and found no town which was in Austria before WWI. In the
Ukraine, here's what I found...

Chortkiv, Ukraine 49 01 N 25 48 E, 232 mi WSW of Kyyiv
Chortkiv [Ukr], Chortkov [Rus, Yid], Czortkow [Pol]

Hope this helps...

Phyllis

Phyllis Kramer
New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: www.JewishGen.org/education

Researching (all Galicia)
KRAMER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna
SCHEINER, KANDEL >from Strzyzow & Dubiecko
LINDNER, EICHEL >from Rohatyn, Burstyn
STECHER, TRACHMAN >from Nowy Zmigrod, Dukla
Family web site: KehilaLinks.JewishGen.org/Krosno/Kramer.htm


Alexander Sharon
 

Stephen Paul Denker wrote:

<<My grandfather's 1913 naturalization papers says he was born September
1870 in Chodlsoff Austria. Any suggestions as to the "correct" name?>>

"Looks" like Chodorow (currently Khodorov, West Ukraine), ex Eastern Galicia
part of Austro-Hungary. The town used to be under administration division
of Bobrka in Lwow Province. Researched by you Gellers are listed in Chodorow,
Bobrka and surrounding towns.

Best,

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB


Peter Jassem <pjassem@...>
 

There was (and still is) Chodaczow near Lancut and a small village
Chochlow near Sokal, which is now in Ukraine and I am not sure of its
new Ukrainian name.

Peter Jassem,
Toronto

<<Stephen Denker asked "My grandfather's 1913 naturalization
papers says he was born September 1870 in Chodlsoff Austria. Any
suggestions as to the 'correct' name?">>

MODERATOR NOTE: See Gesher Galicia's Galician Town Locator
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Stephen Denker
 

I had several replies - all of them very much appreciated!!!

I purposely did not want to give too much information, so as to not
prejudge any suggestions.

My grandfather grew up in a small town - Jagielnica, Galicia and
emigrated >from there in 1898. But apparently according to his
naturalization documents his 55 year-old mother went elsewhere for
his birth - perhaps because there had been a cholera pandemic in
Galicia for several years before my grandfather was born in 1870. She
and her family had lived continuously in Jagielnica since the 1700s.

Likely pronunciations make Chodaczow (350 km away), Chochlow
(300 km away), Khodoriv (150 km away) seem like good choices, but
Jagielnica's proximity to the nearby city of Czortkow (10 km away)
where better medical facilities (1870) were available makes it seem
like a better choice.

Stephen Denker
Brookline, MA
Looking for Geller, Denker and Brie


Shelley Mitchell
 

Stephen Denker wrote "But apparently according to his naturalization
documents his 55 year-old mother went elsewhere for his birth -
perhaps because there had been a cholera pandemic in Galicia for
several years before my grandfather was born in 1870."

It seems like a common practice. My great grandmother lived in
Kolomea (now Kolomyya). On the Kolomyya birth records, which are
plentiful, they list her home town as Monastryska with each birth. For
one child, it's listed as Buczacz (now Buchach). This is >from 1888-1902.
I think that's where her parents lived. Since she had a midwife for all of
her children's births, my question is, did these midwives deliver at
home or at a hospital? Almost every birth certificate in JewishGen lists
a midwife on the original birth document.

Shelley Mitchell
Brooklyn, New York

searching TERNER, MOLDAUER, GOLDSCHEIN, KINIGSBERG,
KONIGSBERG, SCHONFELD, SCHWARZFELD (Kolomea, Buczacz,
Monastryska, and Galicia in general for all)