"Saul Goldstone" <saul@...> wrote:

I am helping a friend with roots in Hungary.

I would like to know if there is something similar to the "State
Historical Archives" which exists for Lithuania in Hungary.

Is there a place one can write to look for birth and/or death records?

My friend is planning a trip to Hungary soon. Is there a records office in
Budapest where she can go to do research?

The National Archives of Hungary are at

http://www.mol.gov.hu/?akt_menu=574&set_lang=466

There is a link for "Family Research".

This is all in English.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany),
THALHEIMER (Mainbernheim, Germany), KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and
Kleinerdlingen,Germany), LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Russia/Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?)
(Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov, Russia/Belarus)

Yes, there are State Archives in Hungary that have a wealth of
information for researchers including Jewish parish registers. There
are also records in the Jewish archives at the Dohany shul in
Budapest and in county archives that are independent of the State
archive. Hungary did not begin civil registration until October 1895.

The National Archives catalog of parish records is at http://
www.natarch.hu/fondx/aker.html On the pull-down menu under Minden
felekezet click on Izraelita for a list of Jewish parish records held
by the Archives. Then click on Kereses (search).

The Hungarian Embassy website has information about obtaining birth
and death certificates at http://www.huembwas.org/New%20Consular/
Consular/Certificates.htm For events in Budapest, it is helpful to
provide the district number. Without this information it can take a
year or longer to find records.

Anyone searching for Hungarian Jewish records should, of course,
begin research by using JewishGen's All-Hungary database. The AHD
currently includes more than 550,000 records. One of the Hungarian
SIG's largest current projects involves the transcription of vital
records >from the Hungarian State Archives and other sources.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Hungarian SIG Coordinator

Saul Goldstone wrote:=20


I would like to know if there is something similar to the "State Historica=
l Archives" which exists for Lithuania in Hungary.
Is there a place one can write to look for birth and/or death records?>>

In addition to Vivian Kahn's suggestions, all Hungarian researchers should =
check out the LDS Family History Library catalog for Hungarian Jewish commu=
nity vital records.

Most of the Jewish community microfilms held by the Hungarian State archive=
s, and some regional archives dating >from the 1830s through 1895 when civil=
registration began, were filmed by the Mormons many years ago and copies a=
re held at the SLC Family History Library and in many larger Family History=
Centers throughout the world. For a small fee these microfilms can be ord=
ered by your local branch.

Many of these microfilms have already been indexed by the H-SIG, so check t=
here first to see if your town has been done. This will facilitate your lo=
cating the proper film and record for your ancestor. =20

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/

If not then you can go to the direct link for an LDS catalogue search at:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

Do a keyword search under:

Izraelita Hitkozseg

and you will get 453 entries for towns they have microfilmed that were in p=
re-Trianon Hungary.

If you know the spelling of you town, enter that as well, but remember that=
there are many variations in town names, and this search engine doesn't of=
fer soundex options. Searching through all the entries may be your safest =
bet.

As an example, my search on my ancestral town name of Karasz yielded these =
results:

Registers of Jewish births, marriages and deaths for K=E1r=E1sz, later call=
ed Ny=EDrkar=E1sz.
Anyak=F6nyvek, 1876-1895

So...luckily for me both versions of the town name, which I believe changed=
in the 1960s, are provided.

Another search yielded:

Registers of Jewish births, marriages and deaths for B=E1torkeszi, Hungary,=
now Vojnice, Czechoslovakia
Anyak=F6nyvek, 1834-1867

Showing how communities now outside of Hungary are also represented, with b=
oth regional town names offered.

Having the original vital records available on microfilm for viewing and co=
pying is fortunate for Magyar researchers searching for pre-1895 informatio=
n. Even though the most important details are included in the H-SIG indexe=
s, including maiden names, towns of birth, mohels and midwives, occasionall=
y there are comments written in the margins that may be of interest, and th=
ere's nothing like viewing the actual document. =20

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@...

Saul Goldstone wrote:

I would like to know if there is something similar to the "State Historical
Archives" which exists for Lithuania in Hungary. Is there a place one can
write to look for birth and/or death records?>>

In addition to Vivian Kahn's suggestions, all Hungarian researchers should
check out the LDS Family History Library catalog for Hungarian Jewish community
vital records.

Most of the Jewish community microfilms held by the Hungarian State archives,
and some regional archives dating >from the 1830s through 1895 when civil
registration began, were filmed by the Mormons many years ago and copies are
held at the SLC Family History Library and in many larger Family History
Centers throughout the world. For a small fee these microfilms can be ordered
by your local branch.

Many of these microfilms have already been indexed by the H-SIG, so check there
first to see if your town has been done. This will facilitate your locating the
proper film and record for your ancestor.

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/

If not then you can go to the direct link for an LDS catalogue search at:

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

Do a keyword search under: Izraelita Hitkozseg and you will get 453 entries for
towns they have microfilmed that were in pre-Trianon Hungary.

If you know the spelling of you town, enter that as well, but remember that
there are many variations in town names, and this search engine doesn't offer
soundex options. Searching through all the entries may be your safest bet.

As an example, my search on my ancestral town name of Karasz yielded these
results:

Registers of Jewish births, marriages and deaths for Kárász, later called
Nyirkarasz.
Anyakonyvek, 1876-1895

So...luckily for me both versions of the town name, which I believe changed in
the 1960s, are provided.

Another search yielded:

Registers of Jewish births, marriages and deaths for Bátorkeszi, Hungary, now
Vojnice, Czechoslovakia Anyakonyvek, 1834-1867

Showing how communities now outside of Hungary are also represented, with both
regional town names offered.

Having the original vital records available on microfilm for viewing and copying
is fortunate for Magyar researchers searching for pre-1895 information. Even
though the most important details are included in the H-SIG indexes, including
maiden names, towns of birth, mohels and midwives, occasionally there are
comments written in the margins that may be of interest, and there's nothing
like viewing the actual document.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@...

Saul Goldstone wrote:


I would like to know if there is something similar to the "State Historical
Archives" which exists for Lithuania in Hungary.
Is there a place one can write to look for birth and/or death records?>>

In addition to Vivian Kahn's suggestions, all Hungarian researchers should
check out the LDS Family History Library catalog for >Hungarian Jewish
community vital records.

Saul;

Unlike the Lithuanian archives, in which the records are in Cyrillic, the
Hungarian records are readable for the most part, because "Jacob Klein" is
pretty much the same in German, English and Hungarian. Therefore, you can
review the records on LDS microfilms yourself, rather than write to the
archives and have them do the search.

Be aware that about 90,000 new birth, marriage and death records are in the
process of being added to the All-Hungarian database in the near future. An
announcement will be made when this occurs.

Sam Schleman
Pennsylvania, US