Klein/Kline Research #hungary


dskline@...
 

I almost positive I have found the town/village where Ignatz Klein 1864-1934 (aka Kline) was >from in Hungary. I located his application for Naturalization to become a US citizen. He listed his town as BAKOS-ER HUNGARY. I found the location in Borsod Abauj Zemplen Meghe/county. The location: latitude: 48.08333 N---and the Longitude is 21.25 E.

It is 108.3 miles ENE of Budapest. Also, the shape name for the Gazetteer is BAKOSER.

On further research it appears the village name must have changed to Miskolc (It's very confusing!) However, I want to confirm this village or area as to where Ignatz Klein/Kline was from. He changed his name >from Klein to Kline when he came to the US in 1882.

To all Jenners---is there anyone who might know more about this town/village and also where I might find the county/meghe records for further research? Like so many novice genealogists I don't know where to go next. I would like to find if there might be any Klein family or ancestors in this area or thereabouts and if they survived after WWII. Thanks so much. Donna Kline

dskline@comcast.net

Thank You.
Donna Kline


tom
 

jewishgen does not list a jewish community in bakos-er, but if you use the "10-mile
radius" feature of the jewishgen gazetteer, you will find that there were other
communities nearby. i think the largest ones with jewish populations were tokaj
and mad, with about 1,000 jews each. (miskolc had a jewish population of over 10,000, but is a little further away, about 30 miles.)

registers of births, marriages and deaths were mandated by the state, at that time,
but kept by the local denominations. so you'll find jewish records usually kept
separately, by town (and sometimes by ortodox, neolog, or status quo).

i suggest you try looking for the b/md/ records for mad or tokaj (or miskolc)
through the mormons, either online at their http://www.familysearch.org website,
or
the family history center at your local lds church. they have microfilms of many
of the local registers, which you can order for viewing at your local family history center, or online, if they have been digitized. (they are in the process of digitizing their enormous collection.)

as an aside, KLEIN is one of the most common jewish names in hungary, with KLEIN
families just about everywhere. most of them are not directly related to each
other. (for example, two of the KLEINs >from bekescsaba, Simon KLEIN and Lipot
KLEIN, my grandfather and granduncle respectively, were not directly related to each other, but were actually brothers-in-law. so Lipot KLEIN, same surname and same city, was actually related to me through my FISCHLOVITS family.)


....... tom klein, toronto

dskline@comcast.net wrote:

I almost positive I have found the town/village where Ignatz Klein 1864-1934 (aka Kline) was >from in Hungary. I located his application for Naturalization to become a US citizen. He listed his town as BAKOS-ER HUNGARY. I found the location in Borsod Abauj Zemplen Meghe/county. The location: latitude: 48.08333 N---and the Longitude is 21.25 E.

It is 108.3 miles ENE of Budapest. Also, the shape name for the Gazetteer is BAKOSER.

On further research it appears the village name must have changed to Miskolc (It's very confusing!) However, I want to confirm this village or area as to where Ignatz Klein/Kline was from. He changed his name >from Klein to Kline when he came to the US in 1882.

To all Jenners---is there anyone who might know more about this town/village and also where I might find the county/meghe records for further research? Like so many novice genealogists I don't know where to go next. I would like to find if there might be any Klein family or ancestors in this area or thereabouts and if they survived after WWII. Thanks so much. Donna Kline


HungarianRoots
 

Dear Donna,

I am not sure what you have found, but in the gazetter there is nothing like
this. The only place that starts with the prefix Bakos is Bakos-Torek. No
Bakoser or Bakos-er. Miskolc has been called Miskolc for a long time, some
surrounding villages have become parts of it, though.

Is it possible the name was misspelled?

Regards,

Karesz Vandor
genealogist/Historian/Private tour guide

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