School in Warsaw #general

Larry E. Oppenheimer <loppen@...>

My great grandfather attended the "Gimnasium of Warshow" around 1875. Is
there any source of information about the school? Does it still exist?


Larry E. Oppenheimer

Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>

"Larry E. Oppenheimer" wrote:

My great grandfather attended the "Gimnasium of Warshow" around 1875. Is
there any source of information about the school? Does it still exist?


Larry E. Oppenheimer
Very interesting question and tough one to answer in the same time. Ken
Stone has also touched a very similar subject about schooling of girls
in Imperial Austria.

I have forwarded Larry's question to some Polish friends of mine and to
few Polish discussion groups associated with history and culture, and as
I have suspected no one provided a meaningful answer.

I came across Warsaw Gimnasium (Gimnazjum warszawskie) in the
publication by Polish writer Stefan Zeromski. In one of his novels he
describes russiffication of the Polish schooling system in a
governemental Warsaw Gimnasium and fight of the patriotic Polish
students against the oppression.

I have been researching information about E.Orzeszkowa gimnasium in
Lodz, where >from my late mother-in-law graduated in 1938. No one could
help me with information about the gimnaazium records and even the
building where school used to be located (closed as W.W.II has started)
was debatable, despite the fact that I've managed to locate some of the
alumni and teachers.

Records of Warsaw Gimnasium, should be located in Polish Government
Archives - you should write to them with the question to confirm this,
since Warsaw was nearly destroyed during W.W.II. Another possibility, if
Polish Archives have no data, is to approach Russian central Archives in
moscow - after all, schooll was under the Russian tzarist

While researching for 'my' gimnasium in Lodz, I've acquired some
knowledge of the Russia and Russian Poland schooling system. First
Russian "european style" school for the noblemen teenagers was known as
"Lycee" in vicinity of St. Petersburg (Russian national poet Pushkin has
attended this school). Subsequently, schooling system adopted German
educational 'program' - schools were now known as classical 'gimnazia' -
classical (Latin, Greek plus modern language, usually French), preparing
kids for law and medical universities faculties and "real" gimnazia,
where in emphasis were on science, mathematics and modern languages
(German was most popular due to Germany leading technological
development), those schools were preparing kids to enter technological
universities (Politechnic Universities). Schools were own by the
government. As Russia has developed it's middle class, number of
schools has grown dramatically and many schools were mushrooming in the
provincial cities. Ladies were admitted to the separate, "women"
gimnazium, an in addition, private schools with full board were
established to cater for the needs of the provincial youngsters.

Situation in Russian Poland was a bit different. Till January 1863
Uprising, private Polish schools were covering educational needs.
Following The January Uprising against Russia, Russian have closed all
private Polish schools, remaining Warsaw and Vilna Gimnasium (main
cities of the Russian Poland) were following strict curriculum of
Russian Government educational system. Poles were forced to study in
Moscow, St. Petersburg and Kiev due to closure or limited admission to
the Warsaw University.

Gimnasia in independent Poland (following 1918) were both, private and
public. Gimnasia which my mother-in law have been attending in Lodz, was
a private gimnasium for a young Jewish ladies >from an assimilated
families. There were also private Hebrew High schools in a number of
Polish cities.

I hope this help.

Alexander Sharon