Meaning of phrase and event #general


Frieda Libaw <fbl2@...>
 

Does anyone know the meaning of "Svoydo svoego"?

Also can anyone give me info on what appears to be an infamous,
anti-semitic trial in Poland around 1912? I came across it in the
course of translating a portion of a Lipno, Poland yitzkor book. It
evidently led to a boycott of Jewish enterprises that worked great
hardship on the Jewish community and led to a wave of emigration. My
source refers to it as The Bayliss Trial (my transliteration >from the
Yiddish.)

Thanks for any light you can shed .

Frieda Libaw


MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 99-03-23 00:23:35 EST, fbl2@earthlink.net writes:

<< an infamous, anti-semitic trial in Poland around 1912? . . . My
source refers to it as The Bayliss Trial

==I think the name is more often spelled Bailiss or Beiliss. Check through a
Jewish encyclopedia or th index of a Jewish history book. I can't access one
right now. I think the trial took place not in Poland but in Romania or in
the Ukraine or Russia.

Michael Bernet, New York


Paul Silverstone <paulh@...>
 

Mendel Beiliss was falsely accused of murdering a Christian boy in
Kiev. The boy's mutilated body was discovered on a Sunday morning in
March 1911. Beiliss was charged with killing him to use the blood for
matzahs for Passover. It was a very celebrated case and he was
eventually acquitted.
See the book "Blood Accusation: the Strange History of the Beiliss Case"
by Maurice Samuel. 1966.


Frieda Libaw wrote:


Also can anyone give me info on what appears to be an infamous,
anti-semitic trial in Poland around 1912? I came across it in the
course of translating a portion of a Lipno, Poland yitzkor book.
--
Paul Silverstone
New York

reply to: paulh@aya.yale.edu

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MarkGrekin <markgrekin@...>
 

Subject: Meaning of phrase and event

<< Does anyone know the meaning of "Svoydo svoego"?

Also can anyone give me info on what appears to be an infamous,
anti-semitic trial in Poland around 1912? I came across it in the
course of translating a portion of a Lipno, Poland yitzkor book. It
evidently led to a boycott of Jewish enterprises that worked great
hardship on the Jewish community and led to a wave of emigration. My
source refers to it as The Bayliss Trial (my transliteration >from the
Yiddish.)
Thanks for any light you can shed .
Frieda Libaw >>

"Svoy svoego" (that's correct spelling in Russian) is part of a phrase
"svoy svoego ne obidit" (meaning "you will not hurt one of your own kind"
"The Bayliss Trial" or as it was known in Russia " The Bayliss affair"
was a case in Kiev, Ukraine. I will not go deep in this matter because anyone
interested can find all the facts in Jewish Encyclopedia or other historical
books.
The essence: a boy was murdered in Kiev just prior to Paysach and a Jew Beyliss
(or Bayliss) was accused of murdering this child in order to use his blood for
making matzos ( I must say that similar cases happened in Russia prior to this
one. One was in circa 1829 and the accused Jew was also acquitted). Beyliss
was at first found guilty but thanks to many Russian progressive people
(intelligentsia) lead by an Russian writer Korolenko the guilty verdict was
abolished. But that case resonated all over Russian Empire, Poland included.
Mark Grekin


MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 99-03-27 03:14:35 EST, markgrekin@AOL.COM writes:

<< My source refers to it as The Bayliss Trial (my transliteration >from the
Yiddish.) >>

Coincidentally, the Jewish Week, NYC, this week published a story about the
daughter of Raya Beilis, daughter of Mendel Beilis--a resident of the Bronx,
New York!

It appears that after the trial Medel B and his family left for Palestine. A
broken man, he could find no steady work. Eventually he took his family to the
United states, still suffering >from the ravages of his imprisonment and trial.
Again he could find no work, could not even learn English, but the family was
taken care of. It looks like he got a job at being Mendel Beilis: his
landlord gave him a rent-free apartment, he was invited to stay in hotels with
his family and to eat in restaurants. A philansthropist even paid for his
funeral and a plot--so he could eventually lie next to this symbol of Jewish
suffering. Hi daughter, who was a toddler when her father was torn away from
his family, now in her 90s, lives in the Bronx, in an area once teeming with
Jews, now with scarecly a dozen altogether in the enire neighborhood. The old
synagogue is now a day care center for the elderly, open to all races,
supported by the Jewish Federation, with subsidized kosher meals for all, and
a rabbi who comes to lead the Seder and the High Holiday services.

The Beilis affair was a catalyst in encouraging the Jews of Eastern Europe to
emigrate in the second and third decades of this century.

Michael Bernet, New York


Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@...>
 

MarkGrekin wrote:

Subject: Meaning of phrase and event

Does anyone know the meaning of "Svoydo svoego"?

"Svoy svoego" (that's correct spelling in Russian) is part of a phrase
"svoy svoego ne obidit" (meaning "you will not hurt one of your own kind"
"Svoy do svoyego" is >from Polish, means "birds of feather flock together".

Alexander Sharon


Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

It
evidently led to a boycott of Jewish enterprises that worked great
hardship on the Jewish community and led to a wave of emigration. My
source refers to it as The Bayliss Trial
I memory serves, Bailis' trial was yet another anti-semite-motivated trial of
an official in Poland.

History books and buffs galore could elaborate more on this topci.

Good luck!
Yigal Rechtman
rechtman@aol.com