French Nationality #general


Fran Stark <franstark@...>
 

Hello All,
I hope someone can help me with this. My great-grandfather came to the
U.S. in 1902. He applied for citizenship in 1907 and was denied due to
"wrong allegiance". On his first declaration of intention he renounced
forever all allegiance to Nicolas II Emperor of Russia. On the second
declaration, which was accepted, he renounced forever all allegiance to
The Republic of France. Since this petition was not denied am I correct
in assuming that he came to the U.S. with a French passport of some
sort? and if so, does this mean that he became a French citizen
sometime during the 10-12 years he lived in France?

I have read the info files about France and it appears that citizenship
records do exist, however, I am still unclear whether my grandfather
ever became a French citizen.
Thank you.
Fran Stark
West Bloomfield, MI 48322

Searching: MARKOWITZ, KAPLAN, PUPKO, HOCK Donetsk, Ukraine
STARIKOFF, MONTHRUIAE, OSNOVETSKY Kishinev, PAPOUCHE Odessa
STARIKOFF, PAPOUCHE Paris, France.


Shel Bercovich <sbercovich@...>
 

Fran,

You'll probably get more definitive answers, but. . . .

My Great Uncle and Aunt and their two children entered France about 1923.
They were denied French citizenship until about 1955 when one of the
children, who was born in France, entered the French army.

Fran Stark wrote:
[snip]
I have read the info files about France and it appears that citizenship
records do exist, however, I am still unclear whether my grandfather
ever became a French citizen.
[snip]

Searching: BERCOVICI, GOLDENBERG, MOSCOVITZ - around Dorohoi, Romania
KLEBANOV (various spellings), LIPKIND, PAPERNY - Minsk Gubernia
HECHTER (GHECHTER), ZWANG - Tulchin, Ukraine; Israel

To reply, remove the "s" >from "homes" before sending.
Shel Bercovich sbercovich@... trcr@...


Lifshitz-Krams Anne
 

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Fran Stark <franstark@...>
À : JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@...>
Date : jeudi 10 février 2000 22:10
Objet : French Nationality


On the second
declaration, which was accepted, he renounced forever all allegiance to
The Republic of France. Since this petition was not denied am I correct
in assuming that he came to the U.S. with a French passport of some
sort? and if so, does this mean that he became a French citizen
sometime during the 10-12 years he lived in France?
It is a possibility. The 1889 french law for obtaining nationality says one
must have been living in France for 10 years (>from the declaration of his
arrival in the local concil of the town where he lives) , but it was
possible to shorten the delay by asking first "admission à domicile" after
one or two years of residence and then 3 years later ask for
"naturalisation".

I examined a lot of naturalization files >from 1815 to 1900 and have no file
for any Stark for the years 1890-1900 but I can have missed it (or may be
the name is not "Stark"?).
Anyway there is a way to know about it by having a look to the decree
publication.
For more information about french naturalization and how to obtain files,
see the paper written by S.Toublanc in the Revue du Cercle de Généalogie
Juive, n°57, spring 1999, p.25-28.

Anne Lifshitz-Krams
Cercle de Généalogie Juive (Paris)