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CA Death index vs. Social Security Death Index? #general
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Lthorpe883@...
Fellow Genners-
Today I found a relative in the California Death Index. The information included his Soc. Sec. number. I then checked the on-line Social Security Death Index, and he did not appear. In addition to entering his name only, I entered the Soc. Sec. number alone. There was no listing for that number. What am I to infer >from this? Of course I will send for his application and his death certificate, but what could account for this discrepancy? Thanks in advance for your help. Linda Thorpe Caciola Venice, CA
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Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
arieders@... (Alice Rieders) wrote:
Lthorpe883@... wrote:Besides one's death, there is another thing that has to happen inToday I found a relative in the California Death Index.The CA Death Records Index covers the period 1940-1997. order to get one into the Social Security Death Index: Somebody has to notify the Social Security Administration and to make a claim for survivors benefits. No claim, no listing. That, anyway, is what it says on the SSDI website. And if that is true, then it isn't actually a death index, but a claims index. In other words, one can't expect to find in the SSDI persons who did not leave beneficiaries behind, or those e.g. so estranged >from their families that their death was not known to the potential beneficiaries, or those whose beneficiaries failed for any reason to file the required claim. Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better): http://www.hashkedim.com PLEASE NOTE: Messages to the "From:" or "Reply to:" address of this posting will NOT reach me, but will be deleted automatically unread. Replace "sheol" with "stan". Please send plain text only.
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Herb <herbiem@...>
The SSDI is not a claims index related to survivor benefits. It is a
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list of people who have received benefits and are deceased. If no one notifies the Social Security Admin of a death, the checks may continue to flow. Perhaps the confusion is that people in order to begin receiving benefits upon reaching the eligible age or become entitled for other reasons have to submit a claim to the Soc Sec. Admin. The term beneficiary frequently refers to the person who was paying social security taxes and is entitled to benefits . Herb Meyers Boulder, Colorado
order to get one into the Social Security Death Index: Somebody has toBesides one's death, there is another thing that has to happen in
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Alice Rieders <arieders@...>
Lthorpe883@... wrote:
Today I found a relative in the California Death Index.The CA Death Records Index covers the period 1940-1997. The SSDI includes few deaths prior to 1965. Did your relative die between 1940 and 1965?
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Stan Goodman <stan@...>
My recollection of the text on the SSDI site is that it says that there
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has to be a claim. If my memory is wrong, or if the text is wrong, so be it. MMBegun@aol. wrote:
Not quite so, Stan. My mother's name, as well as other deceased relatives,
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MMBegun@...
In a message dated 11/13/00 1:25:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, Stan Goodman
writes: << Besides one's death, there is another thing that has to happen in order to get one into the Social Security Death Index: Somebody has to notify the Social Security Administration and to make a claim for survivors benefits. No claim, no listing. That, anyway, is what it says on the SSDI website. And if that is true, then it isn't actually a death index, but a claims index. In other words, one can't expect to find in the SSDI persons who did not leave beneficiaries behind, >> Not quite so, Stan. My mother's name, as well as other deceased relatives, very definitely appears in the Social Security Death Index and there was no need for anyone to file a benefits claim. No surviving spouse, no minor children. My understanding of the Index is that it is a listing of people who had paid into the Social Security fund and who collected benefits for a while before they died, or were paid benefits on behalf of a deceased spouse (or in the case of minor children as beneficiaries -- the parent's as insured). I am open to clarification if my understanding is wrong. Anyone? Mila Begun in New York (MMBegun@...)
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