unreadable passenger list #general


Myra S. Davis <myrabokpg@...>
 

Hello all,
I have a question. (so what else is new?) I finally received my uncle's
passenger list >from NARA and it is a terrible copy. They had even stamped
it with "Best Copy Available" If they had not marked the name in red pen
I would not have been able to see it. This is for the S.S. Oceanic
sailing >from Liverpool to New York arrived Oct. 3, 1906. My question is
can someone tell me the headings on these pages starting with the name of
the passenger and going right so maybe I can figure out what it says.I
can make out a few such as married or single, occupation But where it
says how much money I can't read it or who they were going to see. How is
it possible to get a cleaner copy of this?
Thanks for any help.
Myra
Myra Davis, Tucson, AZ
myrabokpg@juno.com


MsRachelR <msrachelr@...>
 

Hi Myra -

The forms used were periodically changed - so you'll need to find
someone who either knows exactly when the forms changed, or someone
with a page >from the same month and year, to know what the format was.
I would also suggest checking out the NARA website - perhaps they have
a description of the forms used in 1906. The ones I have are >from
1904 and 1921 and the column headings are somewhat different.

Rachel Reisman


David Cooper <dcooper@...>
 

from a 1906 Passenger manifest that I have:
1 Number on List
2 Name in Full
3 Age (yrs, months)
4 Sex
5 Whether married or single
6 Calling or Occupation
7 Able to Read / Write
8 Nationality (Country which citizen or subject)
9 Race or People
10 Last Permanent Residence (Country, City)
11 Final Destination (State, City, or Town)
12 Whether having a ticket to the final destination
13 By whom was passage paid
14 Whether in possession of $90, or if less, how much
15 Whether ever before in the United States and if so, where and when
16 Whether going to join a relative or friend; and if so what relative or
friend, and his name and complete address
17 (can not read on my copy)
18 Whether a Plygamist
19 Whether a an Anarchist
20 (can not read on my copy)
21 Condition of Health, Mental and Physical
22 Deformed or Crippled, Nature, length of time, and cause

...happy hunting...david


Researching: ALLEN,BERZONER,COHEN,COOPER,KUPFERZMIDT,
POSNER (POIZNER), PRITIKIN, STARKMAN
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Hello all,
I have a question. (so what else is new?) I finally received my uncle's
passenger list >from NARA and it is a terrible copy. They had even stamped
it with "Best Copy Available" If they had not marked the name in red pen
I would not have been able to see it. This is for the S.S. Oceanic
sailing >from Liverpool to New York arrived Oct. 3, 1906. My question is
can someone tell me the headings on these pages starting with the name of
the passenger and going right so maybe I can figure out what it says.I
can make out a few such as married or single, occupation But where it
says how much money I can't read it or who they were going to see. How is
it possible to get a cleaner copy of this?
Thanks for any help.
Myra
Myra Davis, Tucson, AZ
myrabokpg@juno.com
mailto:myrabokpg@juno.com
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Wachtel@...
 

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:31:09 -0500, David Cooper (dcooper@techie.com)
wrote, in answer to a question by Myra S. Davis (myrabokpg@juno.com):

<< >from a 1906 Passenger manifest that I have:
14 Whether in possession of $90, or if less, how much >>

On a passenger list >from February 1906, I read this as $50.

<< 17 (can not read on my copy) >>

Ever in prison or almshouse, or institution for care and treatment of the
insane, or supported by charity? If so, which?

<< 20 (can not read on my copy) >>

Whether coming by reason of any offer, solicitation, promise, or
agreement, express or implied, to labor in the United States.

Alan Wachtel
Palo Alto, California
Wachtel@aol.com


Dick Plotz
 

Myra Davis asks if it is possible to obtain a better quality copy of a
passenger list that she was able to get >from NARA. I have no personal
experience with this, but I have been assured that LDS FHL personnel in
Salt Lake City can work wonders when making copies >from unreadable films.
Often, it is said, a document that is completely unreadable on microfilm
prejection will produce copies of usable quality. Unlike NARA personnel,
the FHL workers' primary job is to help genealogists, and this may have
something to do with the difference. In any case, assuming the FHL owns
the passenger list film in question, it's worth trying to order a copy
from them.
Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Definitely, someone just asked me to look up an l882 passenger
listing that they had received >from NARA which was unreadable.
I found it at the NYPL in New York on Fifth Avenue and the copy
I made was very readable.

Diane Jacobs
New York

Myra Davis asks if it is possible to obtain a better quality copy of a
passenger list that she was able to get >from NARA. I have no personal
experience with this, but I have been assured that LDS FHL personnel in
Salt Lake City can work wonders when making copies >from unreadable films.
Often, it is said, a document that is completely unreadable on microfilm
prejection will produce copies of usable quality. Unlike NARA personnel,
the FHL workers' primary job is to help genealogists, and this may have
something to do with the difference. In any case, assuming the FHL owns
the passenger list film in question, it's worth trying to order a copy
from them.
Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


Lisa Dashman <ldashman@...>
 

My thanks to Alan Wachtel for deciphering all the column headings on the
1906 passenger manifest. Can anyone share a Website or other source that
identifies the headings on other versions of the passenger manifest?

Lisa Dashman
ldashman@bestweb.net


Wachtel@...
 

On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:22:48 EDT Lisa Dashman <ldashman@bestweb.net> wrote:

<< My thanks to Alan Wachtel for deciphering all the column headings on the
1906 passenger manifest. Can anyone share a Website or other source that
identifies the headings on other versions of the passenger manifest? >>

Thanks are always welcome, but it was David Cooper <dcooper@techie.com> who
provided most of the headings. I just deciphered a few that he couldn't read
on his copy.

Alan Wachtel
Palo Alto, California
Wachtel@aol.com