St. Albans District Manifest Records #general


Paul Concus <concus@...>
 

Does anyone know what is contained in the St. Albans District Manifest
Records of Aliens Arriving >from Foreign Contiguous Territory: Arrivals at
Canadian Border Ports, Jan. 1895 - June 30, 1924? It's something that the
New York Public Library evidently has on microfilm. Might it be of use in
finding when my father left Montreal and came to New York around 1914-
1916, probably by train? Are the microfilms available elsewhere, or
indexed on the Internet? Thank you.
Paul Concus, concus@...


Shelley K. Pollero
 

Paul Concus writes in part:

Does anyone know what is contained in the St. Albans District Manifest
Records of Aliens Arriving >from Foreign Contiguous Territory: Arrivals at
Canadian Border Ports, Jan. 1895 - June 30, 1924?
I have used these records and found my great-grandmother's arrival on the
SS Lake Superior arriving in Montreal 24 Feb 1902. Since they are federal
lists, they are exactly the same as those for NYC for the same time period.

The records are available on microfilm in the DC National Archives as well.
The series is M 1464 Manifest for Ships Arriving at Canadian Atlantic ports
1895-1924. They may be at NARA (Regional Archives) as well.

Although final destination is given (person/place) There is nothing on them
to indicate how the immigrants got there. Train was the usual means of
transportation >from Montreal to parts elsewhere, as I have seen noted on
naturalization papers of my great-grandfather who arrived in 1899: "Unknown
vessel to Montreal and ch... by rail to New York"

Shelley K. Pollero
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@...


Mary D. Taffet <mdtaffet@...>
 

Paul,

I have had the opportunity to review the St. Alban's films and can tell
you a bit about them.

1) There are two overall sections of microfilm. One has the soundex
index, which has lots of information on its own, and is also the key to
finding what you want on the other part. The other section has the
actual passenger manifests, which are sometimes ships and sometimes
trains, etc.

2) First you will need to find the soundex film that covers the part of
the alphabet you are searching for. The surnames are arranged by
soundex code, and then the first names are alphabetical within soundex
code. The soundex will tell you (a) WHEN this person came across the
border, (b) WHERE this person came across the border, and (c) which
microfilm and section you need to view to find the actual passenger
manifest entry.

3) Once you find the right passenger manifest film, finding the actual
page you want can be tricky. It took me some time to figure out just
where the actual page number was. Once I figured that out (took LOTS of
cranking to figure it out), then I found the actual page with little to
to problem at all. So, if anybody else can offer some pointers about
what part of the film to look at to find the right page numbers, that
would help [unfortunately I don't remember now].

4) You will of course find both the soundex index and the passenger
manifests in Salt Lake City; that's where I was when I viewed them --
and yes, I did find proof that my grandfather crossed through the U.S.
on his way >from Montreal to Cuba.

5) You will also find the soundex index films at the New England
Historical and Genealogical Society Library in Boston; I would imagine
that if they have the soundex, they probably have the manifests as well.

6) They are not online anywhere that I know of, but a guide that tells
you which soundex index film number you want can be found at the LDS
website via the Family History Catalog.

I'm sure there must be other libraries that carry this set of films; you
mentioned the New York Public Library and perhaps there are others as
well.

But I must admit that I am confused by one thing with regard to these
films. I found my husband's great-grandfather on one passenger manifest
for one of the ships, and I also think I found the rest of the family on
another manifest about a year later. What I do not know however is if
what I was looking at was the recording of a ship landing at the Port of
Quebec, where all passengers then headed south for the U.S., or whether
what I was seeing was just a fraction of the true passenger list,
recording only those passengers that chose to travel further south to
the U.S. [In other words, I don't know if somewhere there might be yet
another passenger manifest that records the actual arrival of my
husband's family in the Port of Quebec >from the foreign port.]

Good luck in your search,
Mary D. Taffet


Paul Concus wrote:



Does anyone know what is contained in the St. Albans District Manifest
Records of Aliens Arriving >from Foreign Contiguous Territory: Arrivals at
Canadian Border Ports, Jan. 1895 - June 30, 1924? It's something that the
New York Public Library evidently has on microfilm. Might it be of use in
finding when my father left Montreal and came to New York around 1914-
1916, probably by train? Are the microfilms available elsewhere, or
indexed on the Internet? Thank you.
Paul Concus, concus@...


Jody Blanke <blanke_j@...>
 

Does anyone know what is contained in the St. Albans District Manifest
Records of Aliens Arriving >from Foreign Contiguous Territory: Arrivals
at
Canadian Border Ports, Jan. 1895 - June 30, 1924?
My grandfather left Liverpool for New York City in 1902. His boat sunk
at sea, and was rescued by a ship that continued on to Canada instead.
I was unsuccessful searching the New York passenger lists for him, even
though we knew when he arrived. It was not until I received his
naturalization papers, that I learned he was officially entered in the
St. Albans records, presumably because that was the first port city he
encountered on the train ride >from Canada to New York. I don't know how
many such occurrences there were, but there is at least one shipload of
passengers that was bound for New York in 1902 that is recorded in the
St. Albans manifest.

Jody Blanke
jody83@...


Peter Zavon <PZavon@...>
 

Your grand father is listed in the record of the St. Albans Immigration
District because he entered the US >from Canada. The St. Albans District
was responsible for crossings >from Canada along the entire US-Canadian
border. The people did not go through St. Albans, that was merely the
location of District HQ for a time.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY 14526

PZavon@...


"Jody Blanke" <blanke_j@...> wrote in message
news:3D305E38.F5D6A845@......

Does anyone know what is contained in the St. Albans District Manifest
Records of Aliens Arriving >from Foreign Contiguous Territory: Arrivals
atCanadian Border Ports, Jan. 1895 - June 30, 1924?

My grandfather left Liverpool for New York City in 1902. His boat sunk
at sea, and was rescued by a ship that continued on to Canada instead.
I was unsuccessful searching the New York passenger lists for him, even
though we knew when he arrived. It was not until I received his
naturalization papers, that I learned he was officially entered in the
St. Albans records, presumably because that was the first port city he
encountered on the train ride >from Canada to New York. I don't know how
many such occurrences there were, but there is at least one shipload of
passengers that was bound for New York in 1902 that is recorded in the
St. Albans manifest.

Jody Blanke
jody83@...
mailto:blanke_j@...