1894 EIDB info #general


Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
 

Hi Genners,
In looking for a relative who came through Ellis Island, I found
entries for a Moses Rosenmann age 14, and a Moche Rosenmann age
11, travelling together on the same ship on the same date. The
handwritten manifest, of course, is terribly incomplete, so no info
is available there. The text manifest is completely missing >from
the internet site. Here's my question. Could these two boys be
one and the same because they have the same Hebrew name? The
alternate explanation is that they were cousins.

Has anyone found two entries, for the same relative, on the same
ship, with two different ages, and slightly different given names?
Any help is appreciated.

Shana Tova.

Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
So. Florida


One of the Krivs <lkriv@...>
 

In 1924m\, my grandparents came >from Russia through Turkey with my
grandmother's brother. He traveled steerage and they went 2nd Class.
However, they were also listed, then crossed out, on the Steerage manifest.
Their given and surnames were spelled differently between the two
mainfests. Why, I have no idea. Different clerks for different classes?

Larry Kriv


"Haviva Langenauer" <havival@bellsouth.net> wrote

Hi Genners,
In looking for a relative who came through Ellis Island, I found
entries for a Moses Rosenmann age 14, and a Moche Rosenmann age
11, travelling together on the same ship on the same date. The
handwritten manifest, of course, is terribly incomplete, so no info
is available there. The text manifest is completely missing from
the internet site. Here's my question. Could these two boys be
one and the same because they have the same Hebrew name? The
alternate explanation is that they were cousins.

Has anyone found two entries, for the same relative, on the same
ship, with two different ages, and slightly different given names?
Any help is appreciated.


sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

You don't need 2 different clerks to get 2 different spellings; sometimes
one clerk might be inconsistent-my gr grandfather's citizenship
certificates have his name spelled differently on the two copies (one his,
the other kept by the court). Spelling of names depended on how they
sounded, and the sounds of foreign languages were not easy to
transliterate.

There are a several possible different reasons why the couple might have
come to the US second class rather than steerage. They might have been
wealthy enough that they could afford a cabin; they might have seen
steerage and decided to pay more (that would account for being crossed out
of steerage).

It is also possible that they found out that one had a problem which would
keep him/her >from getting through Ellis Island (or Castle Garden)
screening. Only steerage passengers went to Ellis Island; second and first
classes weren't screened as they were presumed to be able to support
themselves sick or healthy.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY