Genners:

I would appreciate any help or advice anyone can give me with the EIDB. I
have tried every twist and turn and tweaking on the EIDB, Morse one step
and the regular one, to find my 2 grandparents, but despite having a lot of
information about them, and using Soundex on the Morse DB and multiple
attempts cannot find their record. My grandparents were HARRY and EDITH
SHAPIRO. HARRY (Hiel, Harris) was born between 1880 - 1882. He entered the
US through Ellis Island about 1903 >from Izyaslav (Zaslav), Wolynia provice,
Ukraine. He was 21 - 23 years old at the time. His wife, EDITH (Etta)
Fuchs, was born about 1883, entered the US through Ellis Island about
1903-05 >from Izyaslav (Zaslav), Wolynia provice, Ukraine. ETTA was between
21-23 when she arrived in the US. She was born between 1883 - 1884. She
came in with her daughter IDA SHAPIRO who was 4 - 6 years old. Ette was
held up briefly at Ellis Island because she was supposed to have another
child with her and she did not. Any suggestions anyone can give would be
appreciated!!!!!

Barry Sieger, Winter Park, Florida

Searching: SIEGER, SIGIER, SIGER, SYGUR, SYGER, SZTENDER, STANDER, STENDER,
(Ostrow Mazowiecka, Poland)
SHAPIRO, SHAPIRA, FUCHS, FOX, DRICKER, SPINNER, SHPANGER, NIMOY, NIMOI,
(Volhynia Gub., Ukr. Izyaslav, (Zaslav), Ukraine)

P.S. My Sieger/Stander tree may be found at:
www.home.cfl.rr.com/sieger

Dear Barry and anyone else with this problem;
Although I have been able to find both of my grandmothers on the EIDB, I
have not been able to find either of my grandfathers. They all came about
the same time, 1920's. I have even tryed looking for them under their
mothers maiden names. (If you are fleeing your old country, remember, you
may be reluctent to give your correct, real name!) Also, wth the case of
my wife, it was the mothers father who paid for the tickets, so it was
listed under that families name.
David Edelman
San Francisco.

<< I would appreciate any help or advice anyone can give me with the
EIDB. I have tried every twist and turn and tweaking on the EIDB, Morse
one step and the regular one, to find my 2 grandparents, but despite
having a lot of information about them, and using Soundex on the Morse
DB and multiple attempts cannot find their record. >>

At 12:02 PM 1/10/2003 -0800, you wrote:

Dear Barry and anyone else with this problem;
Although I have been able to find both of my grandmothers on the EIDB, I
have not been able to find either of my grandfathers. They all came about
the same time, 1920's. I have even tryed looking for them under their
mothers maiden names.

>from my own experiences I've learned that one had to have a lot of luck,
often doubt all one thinks one knows, and not believe all that is written.

Example: I'm pretty sure I've found my maternal great-grandparents with
their three youngest children. Once here in the US the surname became
SIMON, but >from a Russian document awarded to my ggf I learned the name in
Vitebsk gubernia was SCHEN. I found a matching family group on the EIDB
with the surname SZEN. However, their destination was Passaic, NJ rather
than the Buffalo, NY area where the older children who preceded them had
settled. The person they were going to (Lowy SZEN) was close enough to the
oldest child Louis to be right. The address was 19-21 Grey St. However,
with the help of the NJ Archives I learned there was no Grey St. in
Passaic, even in 1904, the year of their arrival. Sometime later I was
doing lookups in early Buffalo city directories and came across a
son-in-law living at 19-21 Grey St. in Buffalo!

Oh, another problem with the family I found on the EIDB... my 16 year old
grandMOTHER was listed with an "m" in the sex column!

Another son who stated he arrived in May 1902 on his Declaration of
Intention was found to have arrived on the EIDB in July 1903, a year and
two months later.

I have an ETZKIN family who was on the EIDB as GOLDMAN.

On my paternal side an uncle stated on his Declaration the same ship and
date of arrival as my grandfather stated on his Declaration. The uncle was
10 months old when he arrived. Actually he arrived 3 months earlier on a
different ship with my grandmother.

Family lore has my GREENBERG family name as originally TRAEGER. I've found
members on EIDB with such names as SAKOL, SOKOLAW, SNIPELITSKY and JRUNBERG
(this was an obvious mistranscription).

Bob Wexler
South Wales, NY (Buffalo area)
Reply to: rwexler@...
WEXLER (alt. WECHSLER), Lenitz, Shpola, Odessa, Ukraine
ADLER, Tulchin, Odessa, Ukraine
SIMON (orig. SCHEN), Beschenkovichi & Kublichi, Vitebsk gubernia, Belarus
NOTARIUS (alt. NATARIUS), Chashniki, Vitebsk gubernia, Belarus
GREENBERG/TRAEGER/SOKOL, Tiraspol, Moldova; Odessa, Ukraine