Canadian Immigration Question #general


joe <joe@...>
 

Hello Peter,
The St. Albans Lists are Canadian Border Crossing Records >from Canada to
the US. You can read more about them here in the Vermont section...

US Ports of Arrival and Their Available Passenger Lists (1820-1957)
http://www.genesearch.com/ports.html

They do not cover persons going >from the US into Canada.

Good luck with your search.

Regards,
Joe Beine
Denver, CO

"Peter S. Wyant" wrote:


Stan,

I'm not that familiar with the so-called "St. Alban's" lists ... would
someone know if they show persons travelling >from the U.S. to Canada as
well as the other direction (which is, I understand, the usual direction
of travel for the informatiion on these lists??

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada


Shawn Weil <weil.17@...>
 

Thank you to all have responded to my original query. Since I have
received so many good suggestions, and found some good resources on the
web, I thought that I would send the list some links with information
about Canadian immigration and US immigration via Canada.

The National Archives of Canada:
Includes *much* information about Canadian immigration, broken down by
date, port, and circumstance.
http://www.archives.ca/02/02020204_e.html

The Ships List also has a very informative page on the subject
http://www.theshipslist.com/Research/canadarecords.htm

National Archives and Records Administration - article on the St. Albans lists:
This article describes the information that you would find in the St.
Albans border crossing lists
http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/fall_2000_us_canada_immigrati
on_records_1.html

Another informative page about the St. Albans - an FAQ - can be found here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~holdenclan/albans.htm

What the NARA article does not make too clear is that the St. Albans lists
are not a complete record of *all* border crossings into Canada. For
example, my grandmother's record was actually found in M1480: Manifests of
alien arrivals at Buffalo, Niagara Falls, and Rochester, New York, 1902-1954.
I suspect that my FIBISH family is in record M1462. Alphabetical Index to
Canadian Border Entries through Small Ports in Vermont, 1895-1924. 6
rolls. Although they crossed through St. Albans in 1906 and 1907, they
were not the big "St. Albans List" - M1461: Soundex Index to Canadian
Border Entries through the St. Albans, Vermont, District, 1895-1924.
Because M1462 is not available through the family history centers, I will
have to wait a while to find out if I am correct - I do not live near any
of the NARA branches, and I do not believe that the NARA staff will look
for immigration records for me; it is just too time consuming.

Some other films to try for Canadian emigration:
http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/fall_2000_us_canada_immigrati
on_records_2.html

Cheers-

Shawn Weil
Columbus, OH

WEIL, WAHL, WOHL, ABRAMOWITZ >from Dzikow (Tarnebrzeg), Poland
TELLES, TELEFUS, and FISHERMAN >from Khotin, Ukraine; Israel
BIRNBERG, >from Medzhibozh and Khotin, Ukraine; UK; Argentina;
GOLDER, MOSKOWITZ, LIEBOWITZ, FIBISH >from Romania; Brazil; Israel
BROITMAN, DARISH >from Ukraine; GLANTZ, LAMPERT >from Philadelphia, PA;
http://www.tangerinecrafts.com/Personal/genealogy.htm

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Stan Goodman <safeqSPAM_FOILER@...>
 

p.wyant@sasktel.net (Peter S. Wyant) opined:

Shawn,
have you looked up the immigration of these folks in the Canadian Incoming
Steamship Passenger Manifests available >from the National Archives of
Canada? The manifests will usually show other useful information including
former place of residence, etc. You've got the port and date of arrival so
finding him should be very straightforward. I can give you more details if
you need them. <<<


The above is tantalizing for me. The person for whom I am searching
arrived at Ellis Island in 1900; according to the passenger manifest,
his destination was a specific address in Montreal, and I assume that
he journeyed there by rail. Would there be a record somewhere of the
entry of this immigrant?

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

Please remove the CAPITAL LETTERS >from my address in order to send me
email.


Peter S. Wyant <p.wyant@...>
 

Stan,

I'm not that familiar with the so-called "St. Alban's" lists ... would
someone know if they show persons travelling >from the U.S. to Canada as
well as the other direction (which is, I understand, the usual direction
of travel for the informatiion on these lists??

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

Stan Goodman wrote:

p.wyant@sasktel.net (Peter S. Wyant) opined:
>
>
>>>Shawn,
>>>
>have you looked up the immigration of these folks in the Canadian
>Incoming Steamship Passenger Manifests available >from the National
>Archives of Canada? The manifests will usually show other useful
>information including former place of residence, etc. You've got the
>port and date of arrival so finding him should be very straightforward.
>I can give you more details if you need them. <<<
>
>
>>The above is tantalizing for me. The person for whom I am searching
> arrived at Ellis Island in 1900; according to the passenger manifest,
> his destination was a specific address in Montreal, and I assume that
> he journeyed there by rail. Would there be a record somewhere of the
> entry of this immigrant?


Shawn Weil <weil.17@...>
 

List-

I am trying to locate the immigration records of a Solomon Fibish. He
emigrated >from Romania to Barre, Vermont via Canada. The 'Certificate of
Arrival' included with his naturalization papers indicated:

Port of: Montreal, Canada
Name: Schlome Favish
Date: Aug 9, 1906
Vessel: Grand Trunk Railway

I've looked him up in the St. Alban's list index, but could find neither
him, his wife (Dora/Gohres), nor his two children (Jennie and Nat) who
arrived 1 year later. I can look him up by date, but I fear he will not
be there. Am I looking in the wrong place?

Shawn Weil
Columbus, OH

WEIL, WAHL, WOHL, ABRAMOWITZ >from Dzikow (Tarnebrzeg), Poland
TELLES, TELEFUS, and FISHERMAN >from Khotin, Ukraine; Israel
BIRNBERG, >from Medzhibozh and Khotin, Ukraine; UK; Argentina;
GOLDER, MOSKOWITZ, LIEBOWITZ, FIBISH >from Romania; Brazil; Israel
BROITMAN, DARISH >from Ukraine; GLANTZ, LAMPERT >from Philadelphia, PA;
http://www.tangerinecrafts.com/Personal/genealogy.htm


Shel <sbercovich@...>
 

Shawn,

Most immigrants to Canada arrived through one of Halifax, Nova Scotia;
Saint John, New Brunswick; Montreal or Quebec City, Quebec. The former two
ports were open year-round. The latter two ports could be used only
between late March and late October because of ice in the St. Lawrence
River.

This page shows most of the Passenger Lists (PLs) for those coming into
Canada:

< http://www.archives.ca/02/020202/020202040103_e.html >

In this case, note that the PLs for Montreal are included with those for
Quebec City, the first listing on the page.

These microfilms are available through Inter-Library Loan to the U.S.
Again one needs to know the Date of Arrival. You seem to have that, but
may need to look in the microfilm previous to T-488 (T-487), as well.

I found my mgf and mg-uncle immediately in these microfilms because I
knew my gf's DoA. My other gf and both gms are, however, a "needle in a
haystack" story. Am having to go through _each_ Ship's Passenger List on
several films to find them because I have no idea when they entered.

Much luck,

Shel Bercovich
Calgary, AB, Canada

sbercovich at shaws dot ca

NB: Please remove the second "s" in "shaws" in the return address if you
wish to respond directly.

Searching: BERCOVICI, GOLDENBERG, MOSCOVICI - Darabani, Dorohoi, Iasi
& Stefanesti, Romania
ECHTER - Tulchin, Botha, & Krivoye Ozero, Ukraine
KLEBANOV (various spellings), LIPKIND - Minsk Gubernia; USA
ZWANG - Israel; Argentina

Shawn Weil wrote:

I am trying to locate the immigration records of a Solomon Fibish. He
emigrated >from Romania to Barre, Vermont via Canada. The 'Certificate of
Arrival' included with his naturalization papers indicated:

Port of: Montreal, Canada
Name: Schlome Favish
Date: Aug 9, 1906
Vessel: Grand Trunk Railway

I've looked him up in the St. Alban's list index, but could find neither
him, his wife (Dora/Gohres), nor his two children (Jennie and Nat) who
arrived 1 year later. I can look him up by date, but I fear he will not
be there. Am I looking in the wrong place??


Peter S. Wyant <p.wyant@...>
 

Shawn,

have you looked up the immigration of these folks in the Canadian Incoming
Steamship Passenger Manifests available >from the National Archives of
Canada? The manifests will usually show other useful information including
former place of residence, etc. You've got the port and date of arrival so
finding him should be very straightforward. I can give you more details if
you need them.

Regards,

Peter Wyant
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

Shawn Weil wrote:

I am trying to locate the immigration records of a Solomon Fibish. He
> emigrated >from Romania to Barre, Vermont via Canada. The 'Certificate
> of Arrival' included with his naturalization papers indicated:
>
> Port of: Montreal, Canada
> Name: Schlome Favish
> Date: Aug 9, 1906
> Vessel: Grand Trunk Railway
>
> I've looked him up in the St. Alban's list index, but could find neither
> him, his wife (Dora/Gohres), nor his two children (Jennie and Nat) who
> arrived 1 year later. I can look him up by date, but I fear he will not
> be there. Am I looking in the wrong place?