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BetteJoy <bettejoy@...>
Carolisa: The information given to you by Temple Beth EL is totally correct.
If your father was given a Hebrew name at birth only your family would be aware of it. Betty Provizer Starkman Bloomfield Hills, MI |
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Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
Carol asked for private responses, but I too am interested in this line.
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My late MIL, a member of Temple Emanuel (R) of Yonkers, NY also insisted that she and her sister had no Hebrew names because it was not the custom at that time. It would be helpful for many of us to learn how other researchers have coped with this. Barbara S. Mannlein Tucson, AZ ----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol B" < carolisa7@... > Subject: Father's Hebrew name - temple Beth El - Detroit I am trying to determine if my father (deceased) had a Hebrew name. I |
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Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
I'm not familiar with Detroit, but I know that when my Mother grew up (the
1910's) the reform temple in Buffalo had services on Sunday and said nothing in Hebrew. She considered the more recent services at the temple "Orthodox" (apologies to the real orthodox) because of this and the cantor. So my guess would be that he didn't have a Hebrew name which was used in the temple-perhaps his family had given him one however. Most synagogues did not at that time keep a lot of records, so if they did have a Hebrew name for him or a Bar Mitzvah, they probably wouldn't have a record of this anyway. Your best bet for finding one would be to check with a synagogue or Jewish nursing home or Jewish funeral parlor which might have records from later life.Even when I was born (1940's) children were not given Hebrew names-I think that Bar/Bat Mitzvahs use them now, but I would guess that many are 'made up' when the child is 12. Sally Bruckheimer Harrison, NY |
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Stan Goodman <safeqSPAM_FOILER@...>
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 02:31:15 UTC, bsmannlein@... (Barbara
Mannlein) opined: Carol asked for private responses, but I too am interested in thisBut that is not the question asked by the original post. For women not to have a Hebrew name has not been unusual in recent centuries. For men, it has been a rarity. Alas, our ancestors, for better or worse, knew nothing of Political Correctness. To address the original question: The only time anybody in the gentleman's synagogue would have known his Hebrew name (which he almost certainly had) would have been upon ascending to the Torah; from the question, it does not seem that this happened very often, ifat all. Historically, the graves of virtually all Jews buried under Jewish auspices would have been marked by a monument inscribed in Hebrew with the Hebrew name and patronymic of the deceased. One of the least happy developments in American Jewry has been the abandonment of this custom, for no visible reason, so that the Jewish identity (name, father's name, etc.) is lost with the memory of his survivors. That, precisely, is what makes this moment a historical one for Jewish-American genealogy: in the absence of the missing data, genealogy will become difficult or impossible in the community in only a few years. Witness the question that started this thread. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better): http://www.hashkedim.com Please remove the CAPITAL LETTERS >from my address in order to send me email, and include "JEWISHGEN" in the subject line, else your message will be deleted automatically, unread. |
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