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EPSTEIN family legend #general
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Logan J. Kleinwaks
Is anyone familiar with the following legend concerning
an EPSTEIN family? The family fled >from Spain at the time of the expulsion and found shelter in a cave, possibly in Germany. A rock closed the entrance to the cave and hid the family >from pursuers. When the family wished to exit, they shouted the command "Eff(n?)en Stein," >from which their descendants thereafter derived their surname. I am not a (known) descendant of this family, rather I am asking on behalf of a relative. Please only respond if you are familiar with this legend,not about general EPSTEIN genealogy or other stories/facts about the origin of the surname. Thanks very much. Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu Washington, D.C. area
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Nachum Tuchman <nachum@...>
I am not familiar with this legend. I would wonder, though, what the
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chances are that it is true. Why would a Spanish family open the cave by talking Yiddish? They probably would not have known Yiddish until they lived amongst Ashkenazim. And even if they were fluent in several languages, they should have opened the cave with their day to day language, or Hebrew. Nachum Tuchman Tekoa, Israel
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From: Logan J. Kleinwaks [mailto:kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu]=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:32 AM To: JewishGen Discussion Group Subject: EPSTEIN family legend Is anyone familiar with the following legend concerning an EPSTEIN family? The family fled >from Spain at the time of the expulsion and found shelter in a cave, possibly in Germany. A rock closed the entrance to the cave and hid the family >from pursuers. When the family wished to exit, they shouted the command "Eff(n?)en Stein," >from which their descendants thereafter derived their surname. I am not a (known) descendant of this family, rather I am asking on behalf of a relative. Please only respond if you are familiar with this legend,not about general EPSTEIN genealogy or other stories/facts about the origin of the surname. Thanks very much. Logan Kleinwaks kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu Washington, D.C. area --- mailto:kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
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Robert Israel <israel@...>
In article <CA30A1706D903F4EB79DD0D788AF0A2964D815@server.avichai.org.il>,
Nachum Tuchman <nachum@avichai.org.il> wrote: I am not familiar with this legend. I would wonder, though, what theIt was a Spanish family, but the stone was in Germany. Do you expect a German stone to understand Spanish? Robert Israel israel@math.ubc.ca Vancouver, BC, Canada
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s_wiener@...
I believe that the originator of this thread only
wanted to know if any other Genners had ever heard of this bubbameise. I am sure that the credibility of the story was not the point. Please let us not be so harsh on our fellow-Genners. Where else can we openly discuss strange family stories and histories? Because as we know, sometimes there is a kernel of truth hiding inside/beside/around some of these 'jems.' Thanks, Shellie Wiener San Francisco, CA ----- <<I am not familiar with this legend. I would wonder, though, what the chances are that it is true. Why would a Spanish family open the cave by talking Yiddish? They probably would not have known Yiddish until they lived amongst Ashkenazim. And even if they were fluent in several languages, they should have opened the cave with their day to day language, or Hebrew. It was a Spanish family, but the stone was in Germany. Do you expect a German stone to understand Spanish?>>
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