EIDB -- LUPOLANSKI -- Help Needed #general


Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,
Need help >from an experienced Genner who is familiar
with the hand writing of the Ellis Island clercks.
Dobe Lupolanski arrived on Dec 4th,1913. She is listed
on line 14 on pages 960 and 961. I do not manage to
decipher her last permanent residence in
Russia(p.960) nor the place of her birth (last column
on p. 961).
Please respond privately.
Thanks
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Alexander Sharon
 

"Abuwasta Abuwasta" wrote

Dear Genners,
Need help >from an experienced Genner who is familiar with the hand writing of
the Ellis Island clercks. Dobe Lupolanski arrived on Dec 4th,1913. She is listed
on line 14 on pages 960 and 961. I do not manage to decipher her last permanent
residence in Russia(p.960) nor the place of her birth (last column on p. 961).
Please respond privately.
Thanks
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem
Jacob,

Your request regarding private response is appreciated but I believe that any
discussions concerning general interest as e.g. names of the localities should be
made available to all Genners and kept consequently kept in the discussion group
archives for the further references.

As to your request it appears that Dobe Lupolanski was resident of "Olgonov" which
most probably corresponds to Olganow near Busko in the Kielce region of Poland.
Olganow was obscure place with only 3 Jewish residents

There are other candidates for"Olgonov" that are located in Ukraine and Belarus
(Olgopol or Olgomel) but you did not volunteer to provide details as to the region
where >from Dobe has originated.

Analyzing Dobe's birthplace reveals that she was born in "Holowansk" which is
modern Holovanivsk (ex Russian Golovanevsk) situated south of town Uman in
southern Ukraine.

Thus, establishing Dobe birthplace in Holovanivsk we can now return to "Olgonov"
and through the more or less an intelligent deductions figure out that "Olgonov"
should read Olgopol, located some 40 miles WSW >from Holovanivsk.

I could be of course incorrect in my speculalations. Lupolanski surname is spelled
Polish way not "Lupolansky" which may indicate that Dobe was after all resident of
Russian Poland. But on the other hand, Ellis Island scribe could be of the Polish
origin and perhaps he wrote down names >from the Russian passport his own way. Who
knows.


Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Arthur Hoffman <arthh@...>
 

I agree with Alexander Sharon that the birthplace on the manifest is
Holvanisk (Golovanevsk). It is confirmed on p.960, column 11, which
indicates that the nearest relative was >from Holvanisk, *Podolia*. Podolia
was the Guberniya (province) for Golovanevsk at that time.

My grandfather was also born in Golovanevsk, a shtetl of about 5000 with
about 60-70% Jewish at the turn of the 20th century when the 1897 All
Russian census was taken.

Coincidentally, Jacob, perhaps you may be related to Steve Rosen who heads
up an informal group of individuals around the world researching their
ancestors >from Golovanevsk, since you have the same last name.

Arthur Hoffman
Boynton Beach, FL

Researching GOICHMANN, Golovanevsk; WAIT, WHITE, Annapool


"Alexander Sharon" <a.sharon@shaw.ca> wrote
"Abuwasta Abuwasta" wrote

Dear Genners,
Need help >from an experienced Genner who is familiar with the hand writing of
the Ellis Island clercks. Dobe Lupolanski arrived on Dec 4th,1913. She is
listed on line 14 on pages 960 and 961. I do not manage to decipher her last
permanent
permanent residence in Russia(p.960) nor the place of her birth (last column
on p.961).
Please respond privately.
Thanks
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem
Jacob,

Your request regarding private response is appreciated but I believe that any
discussions concerning general interest as e.g. names of the localities should
be made available to all Genners and kept consequently kept in the discussion
group archives for the further references.

As to your request it appears that Dobe Lupolanski was resident of"Olgonov"
which most probably corresponds to Olganow near Busko in the Kielce region of
Poland.
Olganow was obscure place with only 3 Jewish residents

There are other candidates for"Olgonov" that are located in Ukraine and Belarus
(Olgopol or Olgomel) but you did not volunteer to provide details as to the
region where >from Dobe has originated.

Analyzing Dobe's birthplace reveals that she was born in "Holowansk" which is
modern Holovanivsk (ex Russian Golovanevsk) situated south of town Uman in
southern Ukraine.
snip<

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab
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