Dear Genners,
I am searching for the grave of Sara GANZER, wife of Louis GANZER and daughter
of Itsko Mayer GISSER. She emigrated to Israel probably at the beginning of
the 20th century. She probably was born in Lunna, Russia, in the early 1870s.


This woman, a daughter of my ggggf, "gave" her last living child, Fanny, to
her sister and brother-in-law who were moving to America. The family story
is that Sara & Louis were told that the child would have a better chance of
surviving if she lived in America. Fanny moved to New York with her aunt and
uncle when she was about 4 years old, and did indeed live a full life.

I would like to know where Sara & Louis are buried. If anyone can help with
locating their graves, or explaining how I can do that, I will be very grateful.
Many thanks in advance.

Best wishes,
Lisa Dashman
Croton-on-Hudson, NY

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen InfoFiles contain a wealth of data including
information about cemeteries in Israel please see:
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Regarding finding of a grave in Israel, I would contact the Chevrah
Kedushah in Jerusalem who may be able to help. I have a telephone number
for them but I'm not sure of the prefix. The number is 972-2-538-4144.
There is also available a burial record for everyone buried on the Mount
of Olives >from 1760-1906. This is probably not a good source for you
since your relative died after that date.

All of you who are trying to find relatives buried on the M of O might
try to contact Mathilde Tagger of Jerusalem. She delivered a
presentation at the 24th IAJSG Conference in July.

Stan Finkelstein

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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:55:14 UTC, ldashman@... (Lisa Dashman)
opined:

Dear Genners,
I am searching for the grave of Sara GANZER, wife of Louis GANZER and daughter
of Itsko Mayer GISSER. She emigrated to Israel probably at the beginning of
the 20th century. She probably was born in Lunna, Russia, in the early 1870s.

This woman, a daughter of my ggggf, "gave" her last living child, Fanny, to
her sister and brother-in-law who were moving to America. The family story
is that Sara & Louis were told that the child would have a better chance of
surviving if she lived in America. Fanny moved to New York with her aunt and
uncle when she was about 4 years old, and did indeed live a full life.

I would like to know where Sara & Louis are buried. If anyone can help with
locating their graves, or explaining how I can do that, I will be very grateful.
Many thanks in advance.

Best wishes,
Lisa Dashman
Croton-on-Hudson, NY

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen InfoFiles contain a wealth of data including
information about cemeteries in Israel please see:
http://www2.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/il-burial_records.htm

If you know where your relative lived, you are much better advised to write
to the H.evra Kadisha in that town. The records of those organizations in
the main cities are well organized and computerized. In the case of queries
I have made to the Jerusalem H.evra Kadisha by telephone, the helpful
operator told me what I wanted to know about a pre-state death while the
conversation was continuing, and sent me the full paper file by mail. These
files may include not only the location of the burial plot, but also the
exact place of death, address of last residence, and the cause of death.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

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Finding a grave in Israel can be a bureaucratic nightmare. My grandson is
trying to find the grave of his paternal great-great-grandfather who died in
1952. Death certificates give place of death, but not place buried. No one
in the immediate family seems to know, since there was some quarreling in
the distant past. One person said Gedera. The man in charge of the Gedera
cemetery told us that the books were a mess and some information totally
lacking when he took over a few years ago. It was impossible to get through
to the hevra kadisha of neighboring towns. Since my grandson is a persistent
sabra, we hope that he will finally find the grave!
Ida

Dr. Joseph M. Schwarcz
Dr. Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:00:15 UTC, sfinkels2@... (Stanley Finkelstein)
opined:

Regarding finding of a grave in Israel, I would contact the Chevrah
Kedushah in Jerusalem who may be able to help. I have a telephone number
for them but I'm not sure of the prefix. The number is 972-2-538-4144.
There is also available a burial record for everyone buried on the Mount
of Olives >from 1760-1906. This is probably not a good source for you
since your relative died after that date.

--snip--

The message above seems to imply that the Jerusalem H.evra Kadisha has
records for all Israel, which is not true. To be even more complete, there
are at least two such organizations in Jerusalem, one for Ashkenazim, the
other for Sfaradim -- again, for Jerusalem only. This is definitely the way
to go, if you know in which town your aunt lived/died, but it is crucial to
know that much, or to apply seperately to the organization in each candidate
town.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com
For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.