Dear Genners,

As a first time 'Zaidy', I would appreciate any information or guidance
regarding the following three questions:

Can a baby girl be named after her recently deceased great grandfather, who
has not as yet had an unveiling of his memorial? The girl was born some 4
months after the GGF's passing. She is now one week old, (and a real
beauty!).

Is (are) there any restriction(s) as to how long after her birth she should
be named in the Synagogue?

What would be the female version of the male name "Chaim"?

I would like to ensure correctness in terms of religious and genealogical
protocall. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Stan Cohen
Toronto, Canada
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 04:34:44 UTC, natsnehoc@rogers.com (Stan) opined:

Can a baby girl be named after her recently deceased great grandfather, who has
not as yet had an unveiling of his memorial? The girl was born some 4 months
after the GGF's passing. She is now one week old, (and a real beauty!).

There aren't any halachic restrictions at all; there are customs, which differ

from community to community. You can name her as you wish.

Is (are) there any restriction(s) as to how long after her birth she should be
named in the Synagogue?

I don't know the custom of naming a child in the Synagogue. If it exists, it is a
function of practice in your congregation based on social solidarity.

What would be the female version of the male name "Chaim"?

There are two closely related feminine versions for H.aim, derived >from the same
root: H.aya and H.ava (the latter being the name of the first woman, the rib (and
wife) of Adam. The meaning of the root is "Life". A suggestion: If you wish to
give her also a name customary in English-speaking societies, "Vivian" is derived

from a Latin root with the same meaning.

I would like to ensure correctness in terms of religious and genealogical
protocall. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

You have a freer hand than you seem to think.

Stan Cohen

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"Stan" <natsnehoc@rogers.com> wrote

As a first time 'Zaidy', I would appreciate any information or guidance
regarding the following three questions:

snip

What would be the female version of the male name "Chaim"?

Chayah - both meaning life.
--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

Stan Goodman < SPAM_FOILER@hashkedim.com > wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 04:34:44 UTC, natsnehoc@rogers.com (Stan) opined:

Is (are) there any restriction(s) as to how long after her birth she
should be named in the Synagogue?

I don't know the custom of naming a child in the Synagogue. If it exists,
it is a function of practice in your congregation based on social
solidarity.

It is traditional to call the father to the Torah following the birth of a
daughter, at which time a mishaberach is made using the girl's name; this is what
is usually meant by naming her in the synagogue. In recent years many North
American congregations make this into a bigger "event" than was traditionally
the case. A positive development, IMHO.

--
Gary Holtzman

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"Gary Holtzman" <garyholtzman@macnospam.com> wrote

It is traditional to call the father to the Torah following the
birth of a daughter, at which time a mishaberach is made using
the girl's name; this is what is usually meant by naming her in
the synagogue. In recent years many North
American congregations make this into a bigger "event" than was
traditionally the case. A positive development, IMHO.

In England in Orthodox congregations likewise. In very Orthodox
congregations, the close family won't tell anyone else the name until it has
been announced at the calling up and the following mishaberach in the
synagogue.

I am told that when my grandfather went to shul following the birth of my
mother (whose English name was Betty) when it came to the Mishaberach he
couldn't remember whether her Hebrew name was to be Bayla or Batya. In the
end, I understand that he got the name wrong.

It is this name that will appear on the Ketuba and then morbidly on the
tombstone (if the Hebrew name is given).

In the Jewish religion a boy is named at the Brit and the girl at this
ceremony.

Whereas the boy will use his Hebrew name >from before his Barmitzvah when he
is first called up (Aliyah) in shul, the only time a girl will be required
to use her name is on her ketuba if she gets married.

I exclude very Orthodox families where the custom these days is to use
Hebrew names and I assume that this is the same or similar to the religious
name.

In my own family when my aunt died a few years ago, my cousins didn't know
what her Hebrew name was and they couldn't find her Ketuba. They had to make
an intelligent guess based on her English name.

http://judaism.about.com/library/3_lifecycles/names/bl_names.htm is an
interesting site about customs regarding baby naming including some
questions that have been raised recently.
--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland)
ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)