Austria / Hungary timeline question #general


Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Howie Axelrod" <highwind1@...> wrote

My Great Grandfather and his family listed Hungary as place of Origin
in the 1910 census, but list Austria in the 1920 census. Can anyone
explain?
Which town are you talking about? Austria-Hungary existed until the end of
the First World War. Following that there were separate countries of Austria
and Hungary.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK


Howie Axelrod <highwind1@...>
 

My Great Grandfather and his family listed Hungary as place of Origin
in the 1910 census, but list Austria in the 1920 census. Can anyone
explain?

MODERATOR NOTE: You may also want to ask questions about this
geographical area in the relevant JewishGen Special Interest Groups
(SIGs), in this case the Hungarian SIG and the Austria-Czech SIG. For
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and under "SIGs" select these groups.


Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Nick <tulse04-news@...> wrote:

"Howie Axelrod" <highwind1@...> wrote

My Great Grandfather and his family listed Hungary as place of Origin
in the 1910 census, but list Austria in the 1920 census. Can anyone
explain?
Which town are you talking about? Austria-Hungary existed until the end of
the First World War. Following that there were separate countries of Austria
and Hungary.
Yes, although Hungary was a well-defined part of the Austro-Hungarian
Empire. There was some territory (the Burgenland) that was part of
Hungary before the war and became part of Austria after the war.
However, it may be reading too much into this to suggest that as
the explanation.

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Howie Axelrod <highwind1@...> wrote:
"My Great Grandfather and his family listed Hungary as
place of Origin in the 1910 census, but lists Austria
in the 1920 census. Can anyone explain?"

Nick Landau of London replied: "Which town are you
talking about? Austria-Hungary existed until the end
of the First World War. Following that there were
separate countries of Austria and Hungary."

I presume that is the crux of Howie's problem. He does
not know where his gt-grandfather came from.

There is a logical explanation [but not necessarily
correct!] relating specifically to the Burgenland,

see: http://users.spacestar.net/hapander/burgen.html

where you can read: The Province of Burgenland, in the
south east of Austria, was formed >from parts of the
Hungarian counties {Megye} of Vas, Sopron and Moson
following WWI ....... it is Austria's youngest
province, it can claim to be one of the oldest.....

The population included many ancient Jewish
communities as well as others of mainly Germanic,
Croatian and Hungarian descent. >from the 1850s onwards
many inhabitants emigrated to the United States,
Canada, South America and elsewhere.

So if Howie's family were listed in the census as
Hungarian in the 1910 census and Austrian in the 1920
census, the Burgenland fits the bill.

As the moderator helpfully suggested, Howie might now
wish to join both the Hungarian and the Austria-Czech
SIGs, hopefully to find further links.

Celia Male [U.K.]