I refer to the postings on the Discussion Group that the name "Avraham
Itzhak" may be applied to a father whose real name was not known.

My grandfather Abraham MALZ was the second son of Moses MALZ.

The text on Moses' headstone says (in Hebrew):"Here lies a pure and honest
man Moshe ben Avraham Yitzhak Malz, died (unclear single letter) Iyyar
5675 (or 5678). May his soul be bound in life."

Am I to understand that my grandfather (Abraham) did not know the name of
his grandfather? Or is it only a possibility?

My grandfather Abraham was aged 40 when his father Moses MALZ died in
1918, so I assume he should have known his grandfather's name.

Is it significant that it was Moses' *second* son who was named Abraham?

Are the names "Abraham" and "Isaac" normally used in conjunction, or is
this combination reserved to this particular situation?

The MALZ family lived in Vienna but originated >from Kolbuszowa, where I
understand the Jews' records were destroyed under the Nazi regime.

Many thanks,

Doug Mason
Melbourne
Australia

"Doug Mason" <dmason@...> wrote:

Are the names "Abraham" and "Isaac" normally used in conjunction, or is this
combination reserved to this particular situation?

Rav Kook, the first Chief Rabbi of Palestine was "Avraham Yitzhak".

There are about 500 references which contain "Avraham Yitzhak" on Google, although
these do include references such as "Avraham, Yitzhak".

Considering "Abraham Isaac" I wanted to exclude Bibilical and other references. I
found that there were about 5,700 results if one excluded Rav Kook. Naturally
there are duplications.

There are quite a few rabbis of this name besides Rav Kook.

Clearly one can say that it is a very accepted combination.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)