Service with the British army in the 1890s #general


Doug Mason
 

In 1894, at the age of 18, my wife's great-grandfather was recruited in
the British Army.

His enlistment in the Grenadier Guards was for "Short Service (3 years
with the Colors, and 9 years in the Reserve.)"

Was this likely to have been a voluntary enlistment or a form of
compulsory "National Service"?

Would they have looked at his birth certificate or would they have taken
his stated age on trust?

Doug Mason
Melbourne
Australia


Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Doug Mason < dmason@alphalink.com.au > wrote:

In 1894, at the age of 18, my wife's great-grandfather was recruited in
the British Army.
His enlistment in the Grenadier Guards was for "Short Service (3 years
with the Colors, and 9 years in the Reserve.)"
Was this likely to have been a voluntary enlistment or a form of
compulsory "National Service"?
I'm pretty sure this would have been voluntary. There was no
conscription in Britain until 1916.

Robert Israel
israel@math.ubc.ca
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Robert Israel" < israel@math.ubc.ca > wrote:

Doug Mason < dmason@alphalink.com.au > wrote:

In 1894, at the age of 18, my wife's great-grandfather was recruited in
the British Army.
His enlistment in the Grenadier Guards was for "Short Service (3 years
with the Colors, and 9 years in the Reserve.)"
Was this likely to have been a voluntary enlistment or a form of
compulsory "National Service"?
I'm pretty sure this would have been voluntary. There was no
conscription in Britain until 1916.
In fact, I believe that in 1914 young men joined up in droves. It was only
later as Robert points out, presumably after the vast losses at the Somme
etc, that Britain introduced conscription.

See http://collections.iwm.org.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.1271 >from the
Imperial War Museum regarding "When was conscription introduced during the
First World War?" January 1916 apparently.

I noticed while looking at the above link that it directs one to a page
regarding Family History http://www.iwm.org.uk/server.php?show=nav.00100a
with links such as "Tracing POW's".

http://collections.iwm.org.uk/server/show/ConWebDoc.1272 regarding "National
Service" says that the first National Service Acts were passed during WWII.
I don't know what the difference is between conscription and National
Service.

http://www.ppu.org.uk/learn/infodocs/st_conscription_l.html (the Peace
Pledge Union Project) says that while conscription was first developed in
Prussia in the 18th C and spread throughout the Continent, it never became a
British tradition. Apparently it was considered to smack of militarism.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

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