Jewish record indexes omit marriage banns #general


Joyce Oshrin <joshrin@...>
 

I've been putting the Jewish BMD data >from 1822,23 of Koden, Lublin ,
Poland on a database. I found about 11 Jewish marriage banns posted in each
of these years, some of the marriages taking place in other cities. These are
of Koden residents. There is no mention of them in the indexes. If you do not
read the records page by page, you would never know they were there. They are
not even numbered. They have as much information as the regular marriage records.

Why would Jewish people go to the town clerks to record marriage banns? Do
Jewish people post marriage banns? Was this a common occurrence? Has anyone
else found these in their town's records?

Joyce Oshrin


Jerry Schneider <jerry.schneider@...>
 

Joyce wrote:

I've been putting the Jewish BMD data >from 1822,23 of Koden, Lublin
, Poland on a database. I found about 11 Jewish marriage banns
posted in each of these years, some of the marriages taking place in
other cities. These are of Koden residents. There is no mention of
them in the indexes. If you do not read the records page by page,
you would never know they were there. They are not even numbered.
They have as much information as the regular marriage records.

Why would Jewish people go to the town clerks to record marriage
banns? Do Jewish people post marriage banns? Was this a common
occurrence? Has anyone else found these in their town's records?

You are quite right about the genealogical value of marriage banns and the wealth
of information that they provide. In many cases, Izbica and Zolkiewka in
particular, the marriage banns were often numbered, but they were never included
in the annual indices. Because the bride and groom were often >from different
towns and banns were usually posted in each of the towns, the only inkling you
may receive about a specific marriage would be the banns posted in the town
where one of the families lived while the wedding was in the other's town.

The posting of banns (a notice of intent to marry), is traditional in many
religions, including Judaism. It is similar to the "whoever has reason why
these two people should not be married, speak now or forever hold your peace."
The posting of banns was simply a notification to the community of the intent
of the bride and groom to get married. In most cases, these were actually
posted to the doors of the synagogues (or churches) or announced in the
synagogue or church before the congregation, two (Napoleonic Code) or three
(post-1825) times prior to the marriage (on the Sabbath in case of Jews),
usually beginning three weeks prior to the marriage. In Jewish marriage/bann
records >from 1810 - 1825 that were maintained by the Catholic Church, the
postings were often at the town or city hall.

In the marriage records themselves, the posting of banns is often noted,
something similar to

(This was the Napoleonic Code version, in use prior to 1825 before the recording
of vital records were required for Jewish citizens)

"... the banns for which were announced before the doors of our District
Building, that is, the first on the 2nd day of the month of February, and the
second on the 9th day of the current month and year, at 12 o'clock noon"

or

(This was the version generally used post 1825, when recording of Jewish vital
records became mandatory and were maintained separately >from those of non-Jews)

"This marriage was preceded by three announcements in the Jewish Synagogue of
Zolkiewka on the 9th of May, the 16th of May, and the 23rd of May of the year
1881."

Jerry Schneider


David Lewin <davidlewin@...>
 

At 13:53 14/02/2006, you wrote:

I've been putting the Jewish BMD data >from 1822,23 of Koden, Lublin
, Poland on a database. I found about 11 Jewish marriage banns
posted in each of these years, some of the marriages taking place in
other cities. These are of Koden residents. There is no mention of
them in the indexes. If you do not read the records page by page,
you would never know they were there. They are not even numbered.
They have as much information as the regular marriage records.

Why would Jewish people go to the town clerks to record marriage
banns? Do Jewish people post marriage banns? Was this a common
occurrence? Has anyone else found these in their town's records?

Joyce Oshrin

I have transcribed many 1800 - 1880 records >from West Prussia -
notably the Golub and Strasburg area. There a numerous Wedding Banns
documents among these. I have noticed that they went up in the town
of bride and of the groom where these are different.

I must say that it seemed to me obvious that this happened, and I
never thought about the "why".

David Lewin
London