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Ron Arons
Steve,
You probably know that the real name of the famous gangster "Dutch Schultz" was Arthur Flegenheimer. Ron Arons Oakland, CA www.jewsofsingsing.com Does anyone know the etymology of FLEGENHEIMER? All I can think of is "flatlander." Does anyone have a FLEGENHEIMER on their tree?
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Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
wrote on 22 aug 2008 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
Flegenheimer seems to me an inhabitantDoes anyone know the etymology of FLEGENHEIMER? of the theoretical stetl "Flegenheim", though ShtetlSeeker cannot find it which has, in German, nothing to do with "flat". Perhaps more to the point, a "Pflegeheim" is a nuring home. You probably know that the real name of the famous gangster "Dutch Schultz" was Arthur Flegenheimer. Ah yes, te "Beer Baron of the Bronx", his father had a saloon there. <http://tinyurl.com/64m8eo> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Schultz> <http://www.feastofhateandfear.com/archives/dutch.html> The name FLEGENHEIM also appears as a family name, like Mrs. Alfred, Frau Antoinette Flegenheim, on board of the Titanic, a resident of Berlin. Evertjan Hannivoort. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
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Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
Roger Lustig wrote on 23 aug 2008 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
Evertjan. wrote: When in doubt, check Lars Menk's A Dictionary of German-Jewish Surnames.Flehingen, 30 km NE of Karlsruhe: < http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~shtetm~-1770368 > < http://www.evilsnake.com/Genealogy/Flehingen.html > Even so, I cannot see the jump >from FLEHINGER to FLEGENHEIMER, unless the name FLEGENHEIM is reported for FLEHINGEN, and the below gives some clues to that: < http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberderdingen > says: "Flehingen wurde 778/79 als Flancheim erstmals erwähnt." It seems that that place started as a "heim/heem/hem/ham/um" name, as there are so many in England, Netherlands andwestern Germany, [like Wokenham, Arnhem, Manheim], all having the same root as "home". So FLEGENHEIMER could be a derivative of something like FLANCHEIMER. Evertjan Hannivoort. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress) MODERATOR NOTE: The "Wikipedia/Oberderdingen" site is in German.
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Roger Lustig
When in doubt, check Lars Menk's A Dictionary of German-Jewish Surnames.
He reports that the name means "person >from Flehingen." The earliest examples he has used both FLEHINGER and FLEGENHEIMER. FLEHENHEIMER was also known. Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA Research co-ordinator, GerSIG Evertjan. wrote: Flegenheimer seems to me an inhabitant of the theoretical stetl "Flegenheim", though ShtetlSeeker cannot find it which has, in German, nothing to do with "flat".
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Eric Svirskis
Although I don't speak German & only understand only a little Yiddish
"Flyinghammer" metaphorically springs to mind. There are many misspellings in our family name (18 & rising!) so I it occurred to me that the "Flegen" part is corrupted >from "Fleigen" meaning flight or flying. I wonder about the "heimer" part: it may (possibly, more probably) mean "home" (as in "haymischer) therefore "Flyinghome" BTW a quick Google search on the surname brought up a number of hits including a small Tree of (possibly a different) Arthur FLEGENHEIMER as part of a KAMINSKY family. Eric Svirskis Melbourne, Australia. svire@melbpc.org.au Interested in: FLEXER, GANTOVNIK, GESKIN, GROSSBEIN, MUSZKATBLAT, OKUN, SRAGOWITZ, SVIRSKI, SVIRSKIS or SWIRSKY, & ZILBERMAN - mainly >from Lthuania: Danilovichiai/Draustine, Dolhinov, Kovno/Kaunas, Panevesz/Panecevysz, and Widze/Vidzy (now Belarus). All I can think of is "flatlander."Does anyone know the etymology of FLEGENHEIMER? Does anyone have a FLEGENHEIMER on their tree?
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Roger Lustig
There's no jump to be seen! As I said, the earliest holders of the name
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that Menk knows of called themselves *both* FLEHINGER and FLEGENHEIMER. As I also said: when in doubt, check Menk. He notes that "Flegenheim" was a popular name for Flehingen. "Flechtheim" and "Flehenheim" were other variants. Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA research co-ordinator, GerSIG Evertjan. wrote:
Roger Lustig wrote on 23 aug 2008 in soc.genealogy.jewish:Flehingen, 30 km NE of Karlsruhe:Evertjan. wrote:When in doubt, check Lars Menk's A Dictionary of German-Jewish Surnames.
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