How do i find out if they were brothers? #general


tom
 

What are the fathers' Hebrew names listed on their respective gravestones?

....... tom klein, toronto

me@... wrote:

Dear all,
I am trying to find out if my great-great-grandfather, Max RAPHAEL, had a
brother who also emigrated to England called Abraham David RAPHAEL. Max
came >from Kowal, Poland in about 1905 and settled in Darlington. Family
legend says that his brother David proceeded him. I can find no David
Raphael that fits in terms of years/location but there is an Abraham David
Raphael buried in Stockton cemetery (where Jews >from Darlington were
buried in the first half of the 20th century before Darlington had its own
Jewish cemetery) near Max's grave. A relative of mine says he remembers
'David' but when he knew him, he was already a very old man. The Abraham
David Raphael buried in Stockton was 85 when he died in 1940 so that makes
sense. There is also an Abraham Raphael listed as having a drapers
business in Darlington (where Max lived) at the beginning of the 20th
century so it all seems to fit. However, does anyone have any ideas about
finding a more conclusive link between the two men? I can't trace either
of them through available records in Poland and i don't want to make
assumptions.


MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 10/4/2008 8:43:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
me@... writes:
<< I am trying to find out if my great-great-grandfather, Max RAPHAEL, had a
brother who also emigrated to England called Abraham David RAPHAEL. Max
came >from Kowal, Poland in about 1905 and settled in Darlington. Family
legend says that his brother David proceeded him. I can find no David
Raphael that fits in terms of years/location but there is an Abraham David
Raphael buried in Stockton cemetery (where Jews >from Darlington were
buried in the first half of the 20th century before Darlington had its own
Jewish cemetery) near Max's grave.>>

==Check their fathers' name(s) >from their tombstones. My guess is that
the David part of the name is a patronymic. It was standard in many parts
of Europe in the 19th century, before surnames were required, for a Jew
to be officially identified by his own personal name followed by his father's
personal name.

I suggest you post an inquiry at jcr-uk@... to get info
about the Darlington community's records.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@...

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me@...
 

Dear all,
I am trying to find out if my great-great-grandfather, Max RAPHAEL, had a
brother who also emigrated to England called Abraham David RAPHAEL. Max
came >from Kowal, Poland in about 1905 and settled in Darlington. Family
legend says that his brother David proceeded him. I can find no David
Raphael that fits in terms of years/location but there is an Abraham David
Raphael buried in Stockton cemetery (where Jews >from Darlington were
buried in the first half of the 20th century before Darlington had its own
Jewish cemetery) near Max's grave. A relative of mine says he remembers
'David' but when he knew him, he was already a very old man. The Abraham
David Raphael buried in Stockton was 85 when he died in 1940 so that makes
sense. There is also an Abraham Raphael listed as having a drapers
business in Darlington (where Max lived) at the beginning of the 20th
century so it all seems to fit. However, does anyone have any ideas about
finding a more conclusive link between the two men? I can't trace either
of them through available records in Poland and i don't want to make
assumptions.
Kind regards,

Inbal Livne
Edinburgh, Scotland

Researching RAPHAEL, SCHIER, SHALL, CALLER, KALER
Kowal, Kutno, Darlington, London, Mstibovo, Newcastle