Mark Coleman (formerly Marks Levy) Barmitzvah #general


Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Miriam Delorie wrote on 29 jun 2009 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
Good morning,
Good evening to you too, Miriam,

After many years of research on my father (Mark Coleman)
and his immediate family and just not finding the information I need,
I thought to maybe try any records of my father's barmitzvah which I
am presuming he must have had and am also presuming that as he was
born in Whitchapel, that his barmitzvah must have taken place in that
area. Would anybody be able to direct me to which site I must try and
research, ie. The Jewish Chronicle ? Would anyone have this email
address pse ?
Since Bar Mitzwa primarily is something you "become", and not something you
"have", unlike a Bris Mila, I doubt it was so noteworthy in that time and
age to have it registered.

However, if you have, and you most probably do, the exact date of his
becoming 13 years and one day, perhaps we could be more helpful in
searching. And what was his motheres maiden name?

I do not see any Marc Coleman born in Whitechapel before 1925 in
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Maybe in Windsor 1901?

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


Barbara S. Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 

No idea when your dad was born, but in the 'old days' there were not Bar
Mitzvah extravaganzas as there are today.

A boy automatically becomes a Bar Mitzvah on the day of his 13th birthday.
He may have gone to shul, been given an aliyah, layned Torah, and chanted
the appropriate Haftorah. He may have given a D'var Torah -- a talk on a
section of Torah. There may have been a celebratory meal - but hardly ever
the Hollywood-style productions which proliferate today.

As for an email addy for the Jewish Chronicle, try Google.

Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Delorie" <MiriamD@exact.co.za>

After many years of research on my father (Mark Coleman) and
his immediate family and just not finding the information I need, I
thought to maybe try any records of my father's barmitzvah which I am
presuming he must have had and am also presuming that as he was born in
Whitchapel, that his barmitzvah must have taken place in that area.
Would anybody be able to direct me to which site I must try and
research, ie. The Jewish Chronicle ? Would anyone have this email
address pse ?


Miriam Delorie <MiriamD@...>
 

Good morning, After many years of research on my father (Mark Coleman) and
his immediate family and just not finding the information I need, I
thought to maybe try any records of my father's barmitzvah which I am
presuming he must have had and am also presuming that as he was born in
Whitchapel, that his barmitzvah must have taken place in that area.
Would anybody be able to direct me to which site I must try and
research, ie. The Jewish Chronicle ? Would anyone have this email
address pse ?
Many thanks
Miriam Delorie (nee Coleman)


cecilia <myths@...>
 

On 29 Jun 2009 21:43:39 -0700, exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net
(Evertjan.) wrote:

[...]
Since Bar Mitzwa primarily is something you "become", and not something you
"have", unlike a Bris Mila, I doubt it was so noteworthy in that time and
age to have it registered.
[...]
Would synagogue accounts have had a record of a donation made e.g.
when a lad was called to the Torah?

If so, is there any likelihood the record has been retained?

The original poster may already have his birth certificate. If not,
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ shows a birth in 1918 for a Marks Levy in
Whitechapel. If this is him, his mother's maiden name is shown on
the index - but to get more one needs to buy a copy of the birth
certificate - the site tells one how to do that - which will give his
parents' full names, and an address.

Cecilia Nyleve