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sharon yampell
 

I was just looking at the 1930 census where I found some information about my
great grandparents and great great grandmother that confuses me.
I was told, as well as seen it documented, that my great grandparents(and
possibly my great great grandparents*) were >from Vatra Dornei in Romania.
While looking at the 1930 census, it showed my great grandparents >from Zenta
(Senta), my great great grandmother >from I believe Bach and my great great
great grandparents >from Ried; all in Austria. The family listed under them
are shown to be >from what looks like it should be Iasi in Roumania.
My confusion stems >from (1) where is Zenta in relationship to Vatra Dornei and
(2) why are the neighbors >from Roumania and my family >from Austria?
* Some of my great great grandfather's siblings, based on documentation,
came >from Vatra Dornei, Czernovitz and Campulung.

Sharon F. Yampell
Reseacher #128890Voorhees, NJ USA

lradu@...
 

Hi Sharon,

Vatra Dornei or DORNA VATRA was until 1918 part of Austro-Hungarian province
of Bukovina. So perhaps your ancestors were >from other Austrian places and
when left for US were living in Vatra Dornei.

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY

lradu@...
 

Hi Sharon,

Vatra Dornei or DORNA VATRA was until 1918 part of Austro-Hungarian province
of Bukovina. So perhaps your ancestors were >from other Austrian places and
when left for US were living in Vatra Dornei.

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY

-----Original Message-----

I was just looking at the 1930 census where I found some information about
my great grandparents and great great grandmother that confuses me.

I was told, as well as seen it documented, that my great grandparents ( and
possibly my great great grandparents* ) were >from Vatra Dornei in Romania.
While looking at the 1930 census, it showed my great grandparents >from Zenta
(Senta), my great great grandmother >from I believe Bach and my great great
great grandparents >from Ried; all in Austria. The family listed under them
are shown to be >from what looks like it should be Iasi in Roumania.

My confusion stems >from (1) where is Zenta in relationship to Vatra Dornei
and (2) why are the neighbors >from Roumania and my family >from Austria?

* Some of my great great grandfather's siblings, based on documentation,
came >from Vatra Dornei, Czernovitz and Campulung.

Sharon F. Yampell
Reseacher #128890
Voorhees, NJ

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Luc Radu wrote on 14 mei 2012 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Vatra Dornei or DORNA VATRA was until 1918 part of Austro-Hungarian
province of Bukovina.
The Kingdom of Romania emerged when the principalities of Moldavia and
Wallachia were united under Prince Alexander Ioan Cuza in 1859.
Independence >from the Ottoman Empire was declared on 9 May 1877, and was
internationally recognized the following year. At the end of World War I,
Transylvania, Bukovina and Bessarabia united with the Kingdom of Romania.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania>

So Romania grew >from nothing in 1859 to a sizable country in around 1918,
places that earlier were Austro-Hungarian being incorporated later.

Vatra-Dornei [Rom], Dorna Watra [Ger], Dorne [Yid], Watra Dorna [Pol],
Vatra Dornie, Dorna Vatra, having a Jewish population of 1,925 in 1900
became part of Romania in 1900.
<http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~community~-1174403>

Indeed 1918

from 1775 to 1918, Bukovina was an administrative division of the Habsburg
Monarchy, the Austrian Empire, and Austria–Hungary. After World War I,
Bukovina became part of Romania. In 1940, as a result of the
Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, the northern half of Bukovina was annexed by the
Soviet Union.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukovina>

So perhaps your ancestors were >from other
Austrian places and when left for US were living in Vatra Dornei.
I would suggest that even if they left the area shortly after the change,
they correctly referred the the older [Austrian] situation on the question
where they were born.

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Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
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