Are they brothers? #general


Allan Karan
 

Question: Is there enough information to call them brothers?

I just received a copy of Morris PERSKY's (born 1868) death certificate.
His father's name is "Saul" which does not match any info I have on his
supposedly brother's Joseph PERSKY death certificate . Morris PERSKY's is
mother's name is Celia. My great uncle Joseph PERSKY's (born 1864) death
certificate, which is transcribed >from funeral home reporting- not actual
copy, shows "Ceral" for mother and "Sasfra" for father. I think Morris's
mother "Celia" is a good match to my great uncles' mother, but I don't know
how you can get "Sasfra" and "Saul" as a match.

Morris PERSKY's, who settled in New York, tombstone gives his father's name
as Issachar and Joseph PERSKY's ,who settled in Rhode Island, tombstone
gives his father's name as Issachar. There is documentation to show that
both famines came >from Kremenchuk, Ukraine.

I have that one verbal history on Joseph's PERSKY's side of the family that
he a had a sibling named Morris, but noting on Morris PERSKY's side about
his siblings.

Researching:
KARAN (CHARON, KHARON, KHARAKH, CHARACH) and KNIGER >from Kopyl; Grozovo;
Chepeli; Slutsk, Belarus, PERSKY >from Kremenchuk, Ukraine EPSTEIN from
Kobrin, Belarus

Allan S. Karan
White Plains, NY
akaran1@...


Avrohom Krauss
 

Question: Is there enough information to call them brothers?
.It would seem rhat they are brothers. As you say, "Celia" is a
good match (ie. a good Anglicized version) for "Ceral" (Yiddish
name Tsir'l). As far as the contention that father's name "Saul"
is not a match for Sasfra, I see no reason why not. If as you say,
the Hebrew names match (both tombstones list father's name as
"Yissachar- that is what matters. Any English name may have been
used in documents to represent the original name. (Both Saul and
Sasfra begin with "S.") Bear in mind that "Sasfra" is highly
suspect as a name. It is probably a corruption of "Socher" a
calique for Yissachar. This explains why Yissachar was rendered
into English using names beginning with the letter "S."

Avrohom Krauss
Telz-Stone Israel


Meron Lavie
 

Hi Allan,

from my experience, immigrants of that era didn't care all that much about
their English names. I've had relatives change their English names several
times. In fact, my grandfather, born "Sollie" (we assume it was short for
"Solomon") eventually became Saul. I would give far more credence to the
Hebrew names on the tombstones.

Regards,

Meron LAVIE
Oranit, Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan S Karan [mailto:akaran1@...]
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Question: Is there enough information to call them brothers?

I just received a copy of Morris PERSKY's (born 1868) death certificate.
His father's name is "Saul" which does not match any info I have on his
supposedly brother's Joseph PERSKY death certificate . Morris PERSKY's is
mother's name is Celia. My great uncle Joseph PERSKY's (born 1864) death
certificate, which is transcribed >from funeral home reporting- not actual
copy, shows "Ceral" for mother and "Sasfra" for father. I think Morris's
mother "Celia" is a good match to my great uncles' mother, but I don't know
how you can get "Sasfra" and "Saul" as a match....