Herby? Herbi? near Czestochowa #general


Larry Freund & Gloria Berkenstat Freund <gbfreund18@...>
 

I am translating an article >from Czenstochower Yidn. There is mention of
"the German herby" near Czestochowa. It is spelled <hey, ayin, rest, beis,
yud>. The sentence in which the word appears is translated as follows: He
sat in the German herby near Czenstochow and carried out his business >from
there.

Is there anyone familiar with Czestochowa who might know what this is? The
Polish translation of the word is "coat of arms" but it makes no sense in
the context of the article.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
New York, NY


Pamela Weisberger
 

Gloria Berkenstat Freund writes:

I am translating an article >from Czenstochower Yidn. There is mention
of "the German herby" near Czestochowa. It is spelled <hey, ayin,
rest, beis, yud>. The sentence in which the word appears is translated
as follows: He sat in the German herby near Czenstochow and carried
out his business >from there. Is there anyone familiar with
Czestochowa who might know what this is? The Polish translation of the
word is "coat of arms" but it makes no sense in the context of the
article."
The Polish word "hrabia" can also mean "count" (nobility) but perhaps,
in this context, it indicates a royal or noble estate of land holding
in or near Czestochowa.

Gloria, there is a passage you've translated >from the yizkor book
entitled "Czenstochow Becomes a City" that goes:

"It was still empty to the north on Teatralna. A hrabia [equivalent
to a count] lived there. They went there to skate in winter. Woe to
those who greeted the count without his title; they immediately felt
the count's whip and the teeth of his wolfhound. The count borrowed
money >from the Jews and paid back with slaps."

Perhaps it details that part of town? Just a thought...

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@gmail.com


Alexander Sharon <olek.sharon@...>
 

Gloria Berkenstat Freund wrote:

I am translating an article >from Czenstochower Yidn. There is mention of
"the German herby" near Czestochowa. It is spelled <hey, ayin, rest, beis,
yud>. The sentence in which the word appears is translated as follows:
He sat in the German herby near Czenstochow and carried out his business
from there.
Is there anyone familiar with Czestochowa who might know what this is?
The Polish translation of the word is "coat of arms" but it makes no sense
in the context of the article.
Gloria,

Herby is indeed located near Czestochowa, about 8 miles from
Czestochowa on the road to Lubliniec.
This town was known as an historical border between The Kingdom of
Poland and Silesia, and following Congress of Vienna it became a
border town between Russia and Prussia (>from 1815 to 1915).

For this reason town was divided into two parts: Ruskie (Russian)
Herby (later renamed to Polish Herby), and Herby Pruskie (Preussisch
Herby), which was later renamed to Herby Slaskie (Silesian Herby).

Herby Pruskie (Prussian Herby) is the town that is described in the
article as "German Herby".

Best

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


Gloria Berkenstat Freund
 

Thank you to everyone who replied to my question about Herby.

Herby, I have learned is the name of a town eight miles >from Czestochowa.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
New York, NY

Gloria Berkenstat Freund wrote:
Is there anyone familiar with Czestochowa who might know what this is?
The Polish translation of the word is "coat of arms" but it makes no sense
in the context of the article.
Alexander Sharon wrote:
Herby is indeed located near Czestochowa, about 8 miles from
Czestochowa on the road to Lubliniec.
This town was known as an historical border between The Kingdom of
Poland and Silesia, and following Congress of Vienna it became a
border town between Russia and Prussia (>from 1815 to 1915).

For this reason town was divided into two parts: Ruskie (Russian)
Herby (later renamed to Polish Herby), and Herby Pruskie (Preussisch
Herby), which was later renamed to Herby Slaskie (Silesian Herby).

Herby Pruskie (Prussian Herby) is the town that is described in the
article as "German Herby".