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Eroded grave inscriptions #general
A. E. Jordan
Asher Arbit writes "If the stone cannot be read because it is worn, faded
or eroded, there is no good solution." A few people have already offered some ideas. A few more thoughts I found >from when I was working with stones: First off try taking digital pictures >from multiple angles, i.e. left, right, center, above, below and don't be afraid to do close ups just of the area of the inscription or even sections of the inscription. Be mindful of the light when you do it so that the sun is behind you or above not behind the stone and also watch for shadows on the stone. The lighting needs to be consistent on the stone, i.e. shade or direct sun not half and half. Then you can manipulate the photos on any good computer program (MacPaint has been mentioned or PhotoShop for example). These are difficult to use programs but some of the basics are adjusting the brightness and contrast on the photos. If you do not have these programs on your personal computer you can often find them at a public library or a print shop or office services store (where you can rent computer time). If you find the stone is overgrown some times you can carefully remove things like ivy and it is actually good for the stone if you can gently remove it because ivy actually cracks stones with time. It helps to bring good garden gloves and even a clipper on a cemetery visit. If you have the luxury of visiting the cemetery more than once you can even cut the ivy at its roots and come back later when it has died off/dried and it is sometimes easier to brush it away. Also a small plastic brush like what you use to clean dishes can be helpful to brush away dirt, soil, etc. that is on the stone. If you find a stone that has a bush or such blocking it I have had good luck with taking close up pictures behind the bush and then you can use the montage capability with some of the digital photo programs to reassemble the inscription on your computer. If you go with someone to the cemetery they might hold back some of the branches on the bush so you can get your camera in the opening to take pictures. Allan Jordan |
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Harvey Kabaker
A sure-fire way to enhance all but completely eroded inscriptions, and
entirely harmless: Equipment: A firm but flexible rubber squeegee, preferably at least 8 inches long, a can of plain, foamy shaving cream (without any extra ingredients, and not the gel version), and some old towels. Instructions: 1. Apply a small bit of foam into your open hand to get a sense of how fast it comes out. 2. Apply foam across and down the face of the stone. Don't try to cover everything. 3. Use the squeegee gently to spread foam into all the letters. 4. Firmly and gently squeegee the stone to clear the face but to leave foam in the letters. Use a towel to clear the squeegee. Don't rub the stone. 5. Make a photo. Remaining foam will wash away in the next rain. If you try to clear it with a cloth, you may leave a streaked or blotched surface. I can provide sample photos. Harvey Kabaker Silver Spring, MD Researching CUTLER, KOTLARSKY, SHAEFFER in Bila Tserkva; KABAKER, OKUN, BERLUNSKY in Seirijai; WEINHOUSE, MILLER in Edinet |
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Bob Roudman
Folks have mentioned several ways to pick up information >from a worn stone.
Several considered are incorrect and not allowed in most cemeteries. Both chalking and rubbing can cause great harm as will shaving cream and flour. Please see the link below for safe methods and effective methods. http://www.ncgenweb.us/newhanover/cem1.html also http://www.ctgravestones.com/Conservation/inscriptions.htm . The stones belong to posterity lets not damage them. Bob Roudman San Rafael, CA |
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tom
Shaving cream is acidic and accelerates erosion, especially of softer
stones. I don't think it's a good idea at all. ....... tom klein, toronto Harvey Kabaker <harvey.kabaker@...> wrote:[snip!] |
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Ken Drabinsky <kenjdgen@...>
The discussions I have read giving recommendations for recovery of
eroded inscriptions ring alarm bells why discussion list conversations like this should be read with caution. While personal recommendations are often great ideas, they may not always be the best solutions. In this case, I am not an expert in recovery methods however it seems to me the best person to know would be a professional museum curator or archaeologist whose career may depend on making the right choices especially when working with priceless documents and artifacts. My two cents worth...do your research.... Best regards, Ken Drabinsky Coordinator, Kolo Rypin Plock Area Research Group (KRPARG) "tracing your Jewish ancestral links in north central Poland" kenjdgen@... Calgary, Alberta, Canada |
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Todd Edelman <edelman@...>
I know someone in Lithuania who "reads" Hebrew on gravestones with her
hands.... she will travel elsewhere. Write me if you would like me to find her. Todd Edelman (near Los Angeles) |
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mathov yehuda <mathov@...>
Dear researchers
Shalom >from Israel Last year I took more than 800 pictures >from 200 hundred graves in an almost forgotten Jewish Cemetery in Argentina. Most of the Inscriptions were damaged [ or completely destroyed ] by intentions of repaint them by people who didn't t know the Hebrew letters. and then finishing the possibility to learn the dates[ which are engrave in letters and not numbers ] . or by those who used other ways. The best way is: to use aluminum foil or a mirror to "play with the light." And to have a morning set of pictures and an evening set. And at last: to use the different computers programs to arrive to different contrast. That does not harm the tombstone and gives a lot of possibilities. A better technical way to take a first class picture was to use Infra-red films and illumination.but a bit hard to find today. Kindly Yehuda MATHOV Israel |
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Daniel Kester
I did a search on the topic of using shaving cream to read
gravestones, and found this: http://ncptt.nps.gov/blog/shaving-creamgenealogists-friend-or-cemetery-conservators-foe/ [or http://tinyurl.com/lstaeyf --Mod.] from the National Center for Preservation Technology andTraining of the U.S. National Parks Service, which seemed like an authoritative source. When I read it, I realized that they were responding to an email that I had sent them five years ago! At the time I was looking for an answer >from someone with a little more actual knowledge of the topic, rather than just people repeating what they had heard elsewhere. Anyway, they also discourage the use of shaving cream. Daniel Kester Williamsville, NY USA geneo@... www.thekesters.net/Genealogy |
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Todd Edelman <edelman@...>
Hi,
I found the contact information and some web links for the guide I mention who can read Hebrew in tombstones with her hands. Since this would be a commercial announcement if I posted more here, please just write me privately if you would like her contact info, etc. Thanks, Todd Edelman (near Los Angeles) Currently & Newly-researching: GLATTSTEIN in Siroke, Hrabkov, Liptovsky Mikulas and Spisska Nova Ves and other areas of central-eastern Slovakia EDELMAN & FRIEDMAN in Bodrogkeresztur, Spisska Podhradie, Tisza-Dob and Tokaj KLEIN in Puspokladany, Debrecen and Biharnagybajom BERNAT in Klarafalva |
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