Unable to find names on NY passenger lists - LOSEFF #general


Susan&David
 

Take a look at Carmania, arriving NY Dec 11, 1905. The LOSEN family,
Chaje age 50 with 7 children and grandchildren, Destination Chicago.
Shifra, age 11, Daiche, age 26 and Scholem, are family members. The
family was held for the Board of Special Inquiry because some were
hospitalized.

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 1/1/2017 12:28 PM, Walter Rosett wrosett@mindspring.com wrote:
I need help finding names on passenger lists. Even the Family History
Library help desk was to no avail. Dora LOSEFF b 1883 in Veliz(h),
Russia stated she arrived on the Caramania (Carmania) >from Bremen on
20 Nov 1905 arriving NY on 13 Dec 1905. She immediately went to
Chicago where she had family.

A presumed relative, Sophie LOSEFF aka POGROFF b 1894 stated that she
arrived in NY on the Germania Dec 1905 under the name Shifra LOSEFF.
She is possibly a sister to Dora.

Saul LOSEFF aka Solomon Solomons LOSEFF, the sister of Sophie stated
he arrived >from Liverpool leaving 11 Dec 1905 and arriving in NY 12
Dec 1905 on the Carmania as well. Likely he originated in Bremen. All
these persons seemed to have stopped in Liverpool >from Bremen to NY. I
presume that the Carmania and Germania refer to the same ship but
possibly not and dates could be mistaken. There seem to be various
records for these ships but I have not been able to locate anyone with
this surname on any of them for these dates. Obviously I am missing
something and need help.


Walter Rosett
 

I need help finding names on passenger lists. Even the Family History Library
help desk was to no avail. Dora LOSEFF b 1883 in Veliz(h), Russia
stated she arrived on the Caramania (Carmania) >from Bremen on 20 Nov 1905
arriving NY on 13 Dec 1905. She immediately went to Chicago where she had
family.

A presumed relative, Sophie LOSEFF aka POGROFF b 1894 stated that she
arrived in NY on the Germania Dec 1905 under the name Shifra LOSEFF. She is
possibly a sister to Dora.

Saul LOSEFF aka Solomon Solomons LOSEFF, the sister of Sophie stated he
arrived >from Liverpool leaving 11 Dec 1905 and arriving in NY 12 Dec 1905 on
the Carmania as well. Likely he originated in Bremen. All these persons
seemed to have stopped in Liverpool >from Bremen to NY. I presume that the
Carmania and Germania refer to the same ship but possibly not and dates
could be mistaken. There seem to be various records for these ships but I
have not been able to locate anyone with this surname on any of them for
these dates. Obviously I am missing something and need help.

Thanks.

Walter Rosett
Albuquerque NM
wrosett@mindspring.com

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Barbara Zimmer
 

Walter Rossett was looking for his LOSEFF relatives who reported arriving in
New York City aboard the Carmania in December 1905. He named Schifre LOSEFF
born in 1894 as one of the arrivals.

Using wild cards for Schifre (S*H*F*) born in 1894 and departing >from Liverpool
in late 1905, I found an outbound manifest for Schifre LOSEN [sic] and her
mother and siblings. The siblings included Scholem (Saul/Solomon?) and Daische
(Dora?).

When the family arrived in NYC, Schifre's given name was transcribed as Schipl
but I was still able to find the Losen clan and see that they were headed to a
brother in Chicago.

I suspect that the surname was originally written down as LOSEW (pronounced as
Loseff) and the final character was read incorrectly.

Barbara Zimmer
Norfolk VA