Do you recognize a town called Zezmova? #general


Polina <polina-olsen@...>
 

Hi,

I've posted a vital record on Viewmate where the person names what looks like
Zezmova, Russia as his town of origin. I cannot find any reference to this
town anywhere. Does anyone know anything about it?

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68503

Thank you so much for any help!

Best Regards,

Polina Olsen

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond via ViewMate or directly to Polina via email.


Bette Mas <bette.sscf@...>
 

Polina Olsen uploaded to Viewmate a snip of a typewritten document for
surname MARGOLIN dated July 12, 2013 that only includes name of ship
Cymric and last foreign residence, Zezmova, Russia.

Jewish family towns in Russia before WWI are now in various countries
including Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Poland, Ukraine, Moldova and,
less likely, Russia.

When trying to identify an unknown town, it is essential to obtain all
possible family documents and preferable to search JewishGen Gazetteer
by distance and direction >from a known location.

A search in JewishGen Gazetteer (not Town Finder which is the
Communities Database) for phonetically like Zezmova had no result and
for sounds like Zezmova had many results, not including a significant
Jewish community.

The actual naturalization declaration indicated birth date also in
Zezmova, Russia, port of arrival Boston and name of wife in 1926,
allowing identification of other documents.

Even before finding the ship manifest or naturalization petition, two
documents provided the obvious answer, Lithuania (1920 census) and
Zezmar, Russia (WWII draft registration).

A JewishGen Gazetteer search for sounds like Zezmar lists one
significant Jewish community in Lithuania, Ziezmariai, Lithuania,
formerly Zhizhmory in Troki district, Vilna gubernia, Russia before
WWI and in Lithuania between Wars.

JewishGen Gazetteer
< https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp >

JewishGen Communities Locality Page for Ziezmariai, Lithuania
< https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-2621005 >

JewishGen KehilaLinks page for Ziezmariai, Lithuania
< https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/ziezmariai/Home.html >

Bette Stoop Mas
USA


Phyllis Kramer
 

Polina posted: the person names what looks like Zezmova, Russia as
his town of origin. I cannot find any reference to this town anywhere.
Does anyone know anything about it?

Polina...JewishGen has two databases for locating towns in Eastern
Europe...the communities database has 6500 towns which had a Jewish
presence and institutions circa 1900...and the Gazetteer has **all**
the towns in Eastern Europe.

I suspect you tried the communities page query at
https://www.jewishgen.org/communities/search.asp
but used the default of phoenic searching...that indeed brought up no results...
however, when I used the soundex..I found a likely candidate for your query:
Sosnove, Ukraine at 5050/2700, 157 miles West of Kyyiv..the town has a
communities page with lots of good links...and you should consider
adding the surname and town on our family finder (JGHFF) so that folks
can find you!

happy hunting!
Phyllis Kramer, New York City, Palm Beach Gardens, Fla
V.P.Education, JewishGen Inc: https://www.JewishGen.org/education
Researching (all Galicia) ...KRAMER, BEIM >from Jasienica Rosielna
...SCHEINER, KANDEL >from Strzyzow & Dubiecko ...LINDNER, EICHEL from
Rohatyn, Burstyn ...STECHER, TRACHMAN >from Nowy Zmigrod, Dukla


Alexander Sharon
 

I'm afraid that town Sosnove in Ukraine is not the researched "Zezmova".
Town Sosnove was known prior to the end of WWII in Polish as Ludwipol in
Volhynia region.

It had also distinguished Yiddish name of Slishch Gadol. Please also note
that in the JewshGen's Gazetteer town still known under is post WWII
Russian name: Sosnovoye. USBGN on which JewishGen is based, gradually
moving to modern Ukrainian names.

As to "Zezmova", which I believe is Lithuanian Ziezmariai, was also known
under Zezmar, Zezmer, Zhizmory and few similar names.

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor

From: Phyllis Kramer phylliskramer1@gmail.com
Sent: July 6, 2018 8:50 AM

Polina posted: the person names what looks like Zezmova, Russia as his
town of origin. I cannot find any reference to this town anywhere.
Does anyone know anything about it?

Polina...JewishGen has two databases for locating towns in Eastern Europe
...the communities database has 6500 towns which had a Jewish presence and
institutions circa 1900...and the Gazetteer has **all** the towns in
Eastern Europe.

I suspect you tried the communities page query at
https://www.jewishgen.org/communities/search.asp
but used the default of phoenic searching...that indeed brought up no
results...however, when I used the soundex..I found a likely candidate
for your query: Sosnove, Ukraine at 5050/2700, 157 miles West of Kyyiv..
the town has a communities page with lots of good links...and you
should consider adding the surname and town on our family finder
(JGHFF) so that folks can find you!


Carol Hoffman
 

In addition to the wonderful information that Bette Stoop Mas provided, do
check the ALD All Lithuania Database
https://www.litvaksig.org/all-lithuania-database/search-ald/ for
documentation.

Ziezmariai is part of the Trakai District Research Group
https://www.litvaksig.org/research/district-research/trakai-district-research-group
of LitvakSIG. For more information you can contact the Trakai District
Researcher coordinator Amy Wachs.

Carol Hoffman
LitvakSIG President