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Israel cemetery search #general


Trudy Barch
 

Hi friends,

Happy Chanukah to all.

1) Where would a family member that died after 1950 in Jerusalem, Israel
probably be buried?
I tried JewishGen database and had no luck. Where else should I look?

The name is Eleizer (or some similar spelling) WATSTEIN

2) Also twins that died at birth prior to 1905 in Jerusalem Palastine,
would there be a birth and death record for them?
If so, where would I find that information? Don't know if they were male
or female or one of each.

Thank you, Trudy Barch (FL)


Dahn Cukier
 

Hello,

At any time after 1950, the person would probably be buried in Jerusalem.
Mt of Olives, which is/was listed online. There is a group photographing
the graves. The index may be offset >from the actual photo by a few graves.
If the grave was destroyed by Jordan between 1948-1967. there may not
be records.

Sanhedria was very close to the ceasefire line and use was being
discontinued since 1948. A number of small cemeteries were opened and
closed. The grave were supposed to be moved to Har Hamenuchot, but not
all were moved.

The only way to find a Jerusalem grave is to call the 10+
burial societies (chavri kadisha).

There are 3 Ashkanazi and a general Jerusalem.

If a person has family elsewhere, they may be buried at a local cemetery.
Did the person have family outside Jerusalem? Remember that in those
years the trip to Jerusalem >from Lod was over 90 minutes

I once looked for a grave in Yavneh >from 1952. There is no listing of graves
from those years, so I walked around the small old Yavneh cemetery
until I found a grave marker with the first and father's name and a date.
There was no family name.

Please contact me off-list.

Searching and photography of graves by request is a hobby.
But I cannot get to Jerusalem, and I still have to get myself to Metulla.

Dani

Dahn Cukier
BRIEFF, LISS, CUKIER, ZUCKER, SKLAVOUR


Asher <aarbit1@...>
 

The first place to look for burials in Israel is BillionGraves.com.
Although work continues, the majority of the gravestones in the country
have been photographed and transcribed.

Searches are free. You must type the name in the language that appears
on the gravestone, which is usually Hebrew.

Asher Arbit
Jerusalem


Dahn Cukier
 

I agree the best places to look are the on-line indexes.

Jewishgen, Billiongraves, Findagrave, the few
Israeli locations that are online, Tel Aviv, Sgula, Haifa,
Hod Hasharon, Izkor (Min of Defense), there may
be more now.

The major problem I've found is miss-indexing or
missing entries on all of the above data bases.

Israeli listings will include the date of burial
and the *father*'s name. Israeli's, after about 1960 are recorded
at Bituach Leumi - *but* requires the Israeli ID number and is not
open to the public.

About mistakes of indexing, the PC only came out in the 1980s, and became
a tool in the 1990's. People recorded what they saw on the stones, but
some spelled the name >from the sound, so a vav-vav may have become
a bet. A David may have an extra yod, as Dav-i-d.

I have found (in 2014), for instance, approximately 30% of the Izkor
data base has some discrepancy with the stone, name, parent's
name, army/police rank and even location of the grave.

Tel Aviv, I searched for a grave, I had a name in English and date of
death. The index recorded the DOD, but the Dalet as a vav. So 34 was
listed as 36. I only found the problem when zooming in on the photo I
took, it was not apparent at the grave site.

A kibbutz. The graves are under trees and covered with leaves. I asked in
the office if they knew the site of a grave. They claimed the person was
not there, since only members are buried in their cemetery. The person
was the sister of a member and was buried at the site.

Jewishgen. The Netanya entries do/did not have the
Gush/area. But the data is very important as it gives
both the Hebrew and English names. I have used that
on almost every search.

Dahn Cukier
BRIEFF, LISS, CUKIER, ZUCKER, SKLAVOUR